RayleighTT (EUNE)
: i wonder if you have 14 days ban for flame ,and you troll you get permanent ban or 14 days ban ??? ;)) ???
You get nothing :) Thats the whole point......
: You know something, you are absolutely right. Maybe if you had taken your own advice you a. wouldn't have lost the match b. wouldn't be suspended
This game was lost for sure ;) Unless 3 of the oponents disconnected. But true. No suspension....
: When people start flaming me I stop caring about the match too. You talk about natural human reactions well that is one of them.
Well if it was flame then yes, I might agree. Tho if ppl flame me I just ignorre or mute them. The button is there for a reason. Dont ruin the game for the rest of the team. But this is just my opinion ;)
: Unfortunately you can't see the chat in the replays. I really wish you could, but it only shows pings.
Hmm thought so. So you cant see that elise write that she dont care about the game and she will troll. Tbh she didnt go full troll mode. It seemed that she couldnt decide wheter to continue playing or troll.... But she trolled, no doubt about that
: Right, well in the meantime I'm watching the replay (currently 12:30 into it) and I can't see any trace of trolling, just typical low ELO play. At what point does Elise start trolling? You wanna know something else? You claim that Elise did nothing in the game but what did you do? You lost your lane 2v2 against a Leona as Zyra, and even when Ekko came bot to gank for you (at 12:20), you literally walked into melee range of Leona, used your ult (that did nothing) and then just died. Then at 16 mins you respawned (after dying to Yorik in mid lane), ran bot lane and afk'ed under the bot lane turret until 17:05, literally doing nothing. I'd be willing to bet that if Leona hadn't tried to fight you, you would have just stayed under that turret until the enemy team took it. Tell me one thing you did that positively impacted the match, because from what I can see, you were just as useless in that game as Elise was.
I need to go into the replay and see it :) Im at work atm, so thats not an option. Can you see the chat in replay?
: Well, in these case, download the match replay, take a few highlight where Elise (or anyone else) is trolling, go to [support page to submit a request](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new), choose 'Report cheating, punishing, or negative in game behavior', write everything in details, then submit. Haven't tried yet tho, thanks God, haven't seen someone trolling yet, but I guess it is the only way to prove someone is trolling. And yes, your behavior might be humanistic reaction, but it doesn't mean it is right. My regards.
Thank you for your reply :) I will try this in the future. Hopefully it will help to get rid of trollers. As long Im not harsh or wishing death or calling anyone names etc. I still think its my rigth tho ;) Mike
: > Grow a pair and start taking responsibility for your actions. I find it amusing that you would say this after refusing to take responsibility for the words you wrote that then got you punished. Irony abounds! As for the match itself, do you mean this match? https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3949531220/2102067223622432?tab=overview If so I will watch the replay myself and give my thoughts on how Elise acted.
The words I wrote were just a normal human reaction to a troll ruining the game (yet again) I will take my 14 days suspension and hopefully get a bit wiser. And we still have the trolls to ruin our games and riot cant/wont do anything about it!!!
PH45 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=TrollMikeXD,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Nu70Nh1E,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2019-03-05T07:21:59.237+0000) > > If I report a troll and I see the player ingame after= no penalty. So I can get in contact with riot to further investigate this player? And will it lead to anything but wasting my time further. > > There was no counterflaming or anything to start with. But things got a bit heated when the troll start to die on purpose, steal farm from laners. > > Guess my new goal for this game will be trolling then. Come on dude. You are taking this out of context. Read what I write after. I would never waste my time on that and ruin it for innocent players. > > There was no flame. PERIOD!!! Only negative comments to a troll that ruin the game. > Not even close to harsh. Pointless. Yeah see where it got me. so you are right. > But 14 day suspension. Now thats harsh. Give me a chat restriction and some damn proof that Riot actually are doing something about the real problem in League of legends. The trolls!!! > > MIke > If I report a troll and I see the player ingame after= no penalty. It's a rare occasion someone goes unpunished by the IFS. And sometimes they get punished even if you don't receive the notification. And to add to that trolling/soft-inting in general is harder to detect which is why some people sadly can ruin games for quite a while before being punished. > So I can get in contact with riot to further investigate this player? And will it lead to anything but wasting my time further. Well you seemed to be frustrated about the thing so thought I would give you an option to maybe deal with it. Filling a ticket doesn't take many minutes but if your time is so valuable then whatever. > There was no counterflaming or anything to start with. But things got a bit heated when the troll start to die on purpose, steal farm from laners. There wasn't any self-defence either. You report called, blamed the jg, score shamed. > Guess my new goal for this game will be trolling then. Come on dude. You are taking this out of context. Read what I write after. I would never waste my time on that and ruin it for innocent players. The thing is you flaming the troll, only makes them feel better, since they want that reaction out of you. And if you start trolling you just become the thing you despised in your game you got banned off. > Give me a chat restriction and some damn proof that Riot actually are doing something about the real problem in League of legends. The trolls!!! Sadly Riot hasn't came up with a system that would detect trolls/soft-inters faster so for now we are stuck with them ruining multiple games unless they blatantly run it down. Also if you've not had chat restrictions prior to this you could try to contact Riot support and see if they would reduce your punishment to a chat restriction, but I wouldn't hold my hopes up. I hope you stop this pointless act in-game even if there is a troll on your team, since you are only feeding the trolls by reacting to them and hurting yourself in the process.
Remove IFS and let players deal with this, like they used to do;) Sometimes I recive the message "A penalty was given to...etc..." But I still see them ingame after (on opgg) Also hardflamers saying (doesnt bother me tho, its just words) Kill your self, start cutting your throat, hang yourself, wish you and family die of cancer etc. Still ingame after. and the next day. and so on. My time isnt to valuable to get rid of trolls. But if it doesnt help, then yea its a waste of time. Im gonna work on the part "report" Read again what I wrote about me going troll mode " I would never waste my time on that and ruin it for innocent players." And also will work on the Flame the troll part. Try to not give him the satisfaction. I had a 10 game chat restriction a while ago. I know....stupid! Also some heated game with a troll running it down. I n ot gonna get in contact with Riot on this matter. I will take my 14 days suspension and hopefully get a bit wiser. Thank you for taking time to respond. Mike
PH45 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=TrollMikeXD,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Nu70Nh1E,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-04T21:50:11.170+0000) > > OK so trolling, int feeding and basically running it down is ok. Also trying to defend my self for flaming, but thats not ok. Guess my neew goal for this game will be trolling then :) Since that has no effect. Srsly, come on! Ofc I can defend myself. Its my human right and also normal human behavior in any competetive sport. Pppl getting to butthurt. There is legit nothing in this chat that is flame. Unless you are 5 yo and cant stand anything. > This is beyond stupidity. And the worst part is. THe inting troll that hard flamed is ingame as I write this.... Gj riot!!! > OK so trolling, int feeding and basically running it down is ok. When did I claim it's ok to do those things? > Also trying to defend my self for flaming A lot of people get mixed up about this. Usually people are counterflaming, rather than defending themselves. Why do you feel the need to ''defend yourself''? You are far better of just muting the flamers/trolls and reporting them in the post game lobby rather than giving them the satisfaction of seeing that they got under your skin when you reply to them. > Guess my neew goal for this game will be trolling then Ah the classic victim card, go ahead and waste your time doing that. > There is legit nothing in this chat that is flame I just broke down your chat in my previous comment, while yes it wasn't the most harshest chat log, it was still negative behavior, and pointless behavior. > THe inting troll that hard flamed is ingame as I write this If he went unpunished, you can submit a ticket to Riot support about it.
If I report a troll and I see the player ingame after= no penalty. So I can get in contact with riot to further investigate this player? And will it lead to anything but wasting my time further. There was no counterflaming or anything to start with. But things got a bit heated when the troll start to die on purpose, steal farm from laners. Guess my new goal for this game will be trolling then. Come on dude. You are taking this out of context. Read what I write after. I would never waste my time on that and ruin it for innocent players. There was no flame. PERIOD!!! Only negative comments to a troll that ruin the game. Not even close to harsh. Pointless. Yeah see where it got me. so you are right. But 14 day suspension. Now thats harsh. Give me a chat restriction and some damn proof that Riot actually are doing something about the real problem in League of legends. The trolls!!! MIke
: There is a big difference between defending yourself and flaming someone in return: https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/EuEBEu3z-guide-how-to-defend-yourself-without-being-toxic
Oh man where to start. How do I defend myself against a troll? I dont see that anywhere in the link. A random player gets butthurt for some reason and decides to troll the map. Die on purpose, taking farm from laners and talking bullshit. U see, the bullshit I can handle. Im a big boy. But the fact that I enter a ranked game, I go there for one reason and one reason only....WIN!!! So if someone take that option away from me, its my bloody human right to tell that fishbrain deserves a report. Period! Ive been in so many games with players acting like this. But do they get a penalty??? Hell no All trolls Ive reported (not players that just flames a bit cause I dont care) still plays. So the link you posted is useless to me, except the part "report this troll" That I wont do again. The wrong people are getting punished cause of trolls. Very hard when you are frustrated, to not say anytihng atall. And also very unfair in my opinion.....
Nacre (EUW)
: I dont think you said anything bad enough for a suspension. But you type way too much. Its almost spam.
Thank you Nacre. I couldnt agree more. I write waaay to much and I will work on that part. I just get so damn frustrated when ppl start trolling for stupid reasons in games that are winable. I will shut my yap! :)
: How do you know the Elise was trolling? And no, dying in a stupid way doesn't qualify as trolling on its own.
If u were in the game, u would say the same. The behavior and the things she wrote. But I guess that doesnt mean a thing in LOL. Its gone SJW style like the rest of the world. Boohoo you hurt my feelings by saying report. Stfu already and ban the players that is the real problem here. The trollers inters that ruin the game for ppl who actually wants something out of this game. Its a team based game, or atlest it used to be. But riot %%%%ed that up 2. If you feel offended for some negative quotes, after you ruined the game for the rest of the team, then use the %%%%ing MUTE BUTTON!!! Its there for a reason. Grow a pair and start taking responsibility for your actions. We can all have a bad game ofc and I would never ever say anything negative about that. Only try to encourage. Dont know why I even try to defend myself. Im to %%%ing old for this SJW shit. Peace
PH45 (EUNE)
: > TrollMikeXD: the jgl diff tho^^ TrollMikeXD: the jgl diff^^ Blaming your jungler > TrollMikeXD: report this elise ty TrollMikeXD: trolling TrollMikeXD: or useless...report w/e Report calling, which is considered negative attitude since asking for reports is pointless. > TrollMikeXD: u are just muted and reported elise Same here. > TrollMikeXD: imagine we had a jgl^^ TrollMikeXD: just 9x elise ty TrollMikeXD: hard troling and flame TrollMikeXD: just ff and next TrollMikeXD: and rep elise TrollMikeXD: ok then I afk farm TrollMikeXD: bgwp TrollMikeXD: 9x elise ty Again blaming Elise, 9x report calling and wanting to ff/ saying you afk farm > TrollMikeXD: wpp all except elise TrollMikeXD: hardtroll and flame TrollMikeXD: u did nothing this game but farm TrollMikeXD: enjoy your rep Again flaming the Elise > TrollMikeXD: the jgl and mid diff to big TrollMikeXD: just ff Blaming mid and jg > TrollMikeXD: 0/6 jax :D Score shaming pretty much > TrollMikeXD: this troll jax lmao TrollMikeXD: report jax for inting ty Again report calling and blaming the Jax > TrollMikeXD: bgwp TrollMikeXD: rep jax inting ty Same here. > But remember that this chat is only my chat and not from the other part We don't need the other part. You are responsible for what **you** type, not other people. You can just mute others if they are acting dumb, instead of continuing a pointless argument with them.
OK so trolling, int feeding and basically running it down is ok. Also trying to defend my self for flaming, but thats not ok. Guess my neew goal for this game will be trolling then :) Since that has no effect. Srsly, come on! Ofc I can defend myself. Its my human right and also normal human behavior in any competetive sport. Pppl getting to butthurt. There is legit nothing in this chat that is flame. Unless you are 5 yo and cant stand anything. This is beyond stupidity. And the worst part is. THe inting troll that hard flamed is ingame as I write this.... Gj riot!!!
: You gave up in the first match, which is considered as Negative Attitude and kept asking others to report Elise, which is against the rules also. And doing it again again again... So ban is legit I guess. P.S: 1 report is equal to 9 report.
Ok ty for reply. But remember that this chat is only my chat and not from the other part. That hard flamed and trolled= died on purpose. IN my opinion I just reacted as a human, but not flaming atall tho....The frustration just got to much. Mikie
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