Endellion (EUW)
: Да, товарищ
хорошо слышать. вы никогда не знаете, кто слушает
: In soviet Russia Vayne engage you!
but the real question is... do you believe all the Russian propaganda? and what about MH17?? and the Krim and Novitshok??
LexLx (EUW)
: Permabanned without any warning
contact them https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
LexLx (EUW)
: Permabanned without any warning
i dont see any trigger words that justify a perma ban.. scrips?
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Declined (EUNE)
: Greetings Gishky, All I'm seeing here are excuses and justification. Timing, prior history, match details and the like isn't relevant, those are all mere excuses. Fact of the matter is, you were toxic enough warrant punishment. Whatever you say to us to explain your actions aren't important, what matters is that you're not being honest with yourself.
throw some fuel on the matter. it helps..
Gishky (EUW)
: I try to be direct but I don't know if anyone will listen to me
try nice. if that dont work. do it in their way. if they still dont listen .. then they have you (and others) mentally blocked... in that situation you know he will never listen. but if you still want to help them. do it in post game screen (nice way). or add then as friend.. and then discuss the situation.
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Gishky (EUW)
: Dishonorable. Justified?
the only way to get a win out of this situation is... no longer care. stop playing lol and find a better game. Or!! do somthing that will improve your overall quality of life :) I had the same shit last week. in game everyone was flaming. i said that they had to stop. so some one started flaming me. calling me %%%got and %%%%face.. so.. i quit. left the game.. guess what.. 14 day ban bcz i left the game... then i talked to 2 'punishment volunteers' and they downgraded it to 10 game chat restriction... after that i found out my honour was gone.. so i contacted them again.. but you guessed it.. they have no clue what they are talking about.. only the rules.. and i know they dont know.. iam a social worker that is specialised in groups dynamics..... i know what to say when to say to get the most out of it.. but in this game, time is a factor that is not helping.. so you need to be direct..
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VaVoem (EUW)
: if you want a CHEAP computer to play LOL
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VaVoem (EUW)
: LOADING SCREEN BUGED
commonnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no one knows what is causing it?? Riot? anyone? {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
person (EUW)
: I only got S for going 30 - 3
play soraka top and win lane & game. 100% positive you get a S+
: [GAMEPLAY] Poacher's Dirk doesn't refresh the kill count.
sorry for the bad section, i can't post on "Bug Reports" section (miss the button for create the discussion...) that is interesting to
VaVoem (EUW)
: LOADING SCREEN BUGED
interesting that no one knows, what's going on here. and a shame to :(
rawiazam1 (EUNE)
: how comes some people see chat in the replays?
Hydnoras (EUW)
: It's a spectate. Not a replay.
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VaVoem (EUW)
: Emote missing
oki tnx :)
Hajrulla (EUW)
: how come a plat and a gold player in a bronze match?
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CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cypherous,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=rpEaqr6E,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-26T11:37:41.753+0000) > > The message is fairly self explanatory > > The credit card used to buy that RP was involved in what is now essentially a fraudulent transaction, either having been stolen or by having the purchase reversed, aka a chargeback > > All accounts linked to a fraudulent transaction will be locked until the transaction dispute has been resolved, in this case your "friend" paying riot the money they are owed for the RP that was purchased, i would first get in touch with your "friend" and find out what happened and see how he is going to fix it Yes, but there's a big issue, lets say i have a big list of friends, and at some point one decides to troll me and gift RP, then make a chargeback because it was an unauthorized transaction, both accounts will end up suspended? Why? There is no way one can prevent such things? It's like someone throwing a body bag with a cadaver inside your house and you're the one getting imprisoned. Riot should not allow gifting if cases like these seem to happen.
> [{quoted}](name=CJXander,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=rpEaqr6E,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2018-08-26T13:07:59.982+0000) > > Yes, but there's a big issue, lets say i have a big list of friends, and at some point one decides to troll me and gift RP, then make a chargeback because it was an unauthorized transaction, both accounts will end up suspended? Why? There is no way one can prevent such things? It's like someone throwing a body bag with a cadaver inside your house and you're the one getting imprisoned. > > Riot should not allow gifting if cases like these seem to happen. Troll you?? WTF you rly think a person would risk 1 year in jail to TROLL YOU?
YuvalGod (EUW)
: i got perma banned for receiving a gift from a friend
Hansiman (EUW)
: Who's saying they're watching it? Riot is also not reading millions of chat logs in order to hand out penalties. It's an automated analysis that takes place. FeederBuster is also automated, and analyses gameplay to detect cases of intentionally feeding. This type of analysis is much harder than analysing a chat log, because the system needs to understand the intent of player decisions.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8AaKV717,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-17T16:33:00.534+0000) > > Who's saying they're watching it? > > Riot is also not reading millions of chat logs in order to hand out penalties. It's an automated analysis that takes place. FeederBuster is also automated, and analyses gameplay to detect cases of intentionally feeding. This type of analysis is much harder than analysing a chat log, because the system needs to understand the intent of player decisions. 'SEE' as in a algorithm that 'SEE' the chat logs and Riot has no algorithm to 'SEE' trolling and inting (only excessive deaths) common read my comment and read it good.
Hansiman (EUW)
: They do, you just don't see the penalties that frequently. It's not that uncommon that a player comes here on boards to complain about getting banned for intentionally feeding. If they are banned for that, the ban specifically states that this is why they're banned, and a link to the game they were caught intentionally feeding in. However, intentionally feeding is also a very obvious violation of the rules, and those who commit it tend to know exactly what they're doing. That means that they're less likely to come and complain about those bans, because they understand perfectly well why they got punished. Chat penalties are more common, because for one, it's a more common rule violation to take place. However, amongst those that get punished, it's more common to see them disagree with the fact that you can get punished for verbal abuse, and thus complaints are far more common from this group since they simply disagree with being punished. --- FeederBuster is far from good enough, but it does actually catch many players intentionally feeding. It can always get better, and we players help it improve by accurately reporting those that are intentionally feeding.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8AaKV717,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-17T16:21:57.874+0000) > > They do, you just don't see the penalties that frequently. It's not that uncommon that a player comes here on boards to complain about getting banned for intentionally feeding. If they are banned for that, the ban specifically states that this is why they're banned, and a link to the game they were caught intentionally feeding in. > > However, intentionally feeding is also a very obvious violation of the rules, and those who commit it tend to know exactly what they're doing. That means that they're less likely to come and complain about those bans, because they understand perfectly well why they got punished. > > Chat penalties are more common, because for one, it's a more common rule violation to take place. However, amongst those that get punished, it's more common to see them disagree with the fact that you can get punished for verbal abuse, and thus complaints are far more common from this group since they simply disagree with being punished. > --- > FeederBuster is far from good enough, but it does actually catch many players intentionally feeding. It can always get better, and we players help it improve by accurately reporting those that are intentionally feeding. LOL No.. Riot will not Watch 10.000 hours of game-time per day. just to see if an int report was justified ...
: EASY WIN SORAKA ADC
Well Done! you didn't won.. but Good Editing
: >Just an advice, start suspending those who feed and go afk and int They get punished accordingly, I don’t know how aware you are of this. So basically, you are saying that people shouldn’t get suspended, no matter how toxic they are, if they are investing money in the game? As someone who has spent over ~276 GBP–308 Euro on this game, **at least**, I believe I’m entitled to say that this is just a game. I believe, what you state is wrong. I know people who have spent money on this game and still don’t care. The toxic ones need to realise that no, they cannot buy themselves into the game, and they won’t be treated differently just because they’ve spent money. That’s their voluntary decisions, they still need to adapt to the rules, not the rules to them. You can’t blame toxicity on those who play badly. I’m not a good player, and I have bad games, and I still get flamed. Sorry, but we are human beings, and we make mistakes. It’s not my fault if one can’t keep cool and get tilted easily. They deserve to be judged because they were judgemental as well.
> [{quoted}](name=MlND THE GAP,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8AaKV717,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-16T11:42:17.196+0000) > They get punished accordingly, I don’t know how aware you are of this. No they are not. Chat logs are solid evidence and therefore easier to punish players. Inting and Trolling is very hard to 'see' it unless you watch the game itself. and Riot employees are not doing that.
VaVoem (EUW)
: Smurfing. Good or Bad?
Can some one tell me what the difference is?
VaVoem (EUW)
: Smurfing. Good or Bad?
Tnx to Shiwah this is going off-topic way to long.. let get it back on track. In my prev post everyone agreed that placing high skilled players in low mmr games is unfair for the people that has low mmr. But now, when it is called Smurfing.. we see a shift. Can you plz tell me why ?
Arrcros (EUNE)
: i hope ur joking
> [{quoted}](name=Arrcros,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=IF59vUm1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-13T18:44:56.087+0000) > > i hope ur joking sorry but the windwall is the biggest joke.
Arrcros (EUNE)
: Because we had conversation on forum in submit request board and they said when my accounts are gonna be deleted and i want to log in so i can see conversation to check the date,i searched on email isnt there,thats why.
> [{quoted}](name=Arrcros,realm=EUNE,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=R2uHH9Y0,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-08-13T18:43:07.445+0000) > > Because we had conversation on forum in submit request board and they said when my accounts are gonna be deleted and i want to log in so i can see conversation to check the date,i searched on email isnt there,thats why. you can find your support ticket on the support site https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/ (if you can login) or in your email. but.. i can assure you.. in 40 days your accounts are really gone. i can promise you that :)
: Well, let's write a reply from my smurf account. a) You can't stop smurfing. No matter what you try to do, there are workarounds. Unless you literally force everyone to show up in person at riot HQ with a valid ID if they want to register an account, it's just impossible. b) Even if you could stop smurfing, that wouldn't be desirable. Yes, there are people who use their smurf accs to troll, and I won't claim I've never played less seriously on this account than I would have on my main, but that is not the norm. For the most part, people use their smurfs to learn new roles or new champions (being a top lane main, I play a lot of mid on my other smurf) or to get a "fresh start" when they feel like they got stuck in an mmr they can't escape from (which is the reason I made this particular account). And there are other reasons too. Most of those reasons aren't malicious like trolling or just "stomping noobs".
> [{quoted}](name=Tempest of Flame,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ofyjAm6w,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-13T18:49:08.658+0000) > > Well, let's write a reply from my smurf account. > a) You can't stop smurfing. No matter what you try to do, there are workarounds. Unless you literally force everyone to show up in person at riot HQ with a valid ID if they want to register an account, it's just impossible. > b) Even if you could stop smurfing, that wouldn't be desirable. Yes, there are people who use their smurf accs to troll, and I won't claim I've never played less seriously on this account than I would have on my main, but that is not the norm. For the most part, people use their smurfs to learn new roles or new champions (being a top lane main, I play a lot of mid on my other smurf) or to get a "fresh start" when they feel like they got stuck in an mmr they can't escape from (which is the reason I made this particular account). And there are other reasons too. Most of those reasons aren't malicious like trolling or just "stomping noobs". tnx for the reply :) and i am aware of this. This dilemma is as old as Rome :) "Can you make a law if there is no way to enforce the law?" the points you make: a: i know :( b: are normal games not a good way to learn a new champion? and trolling is bannable. (even when it is a smurf account:P )
: link it.
> [{quoted}](name=ned the kled,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ofyjAm6w,comment-id=0000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-08-13T18:51:16.559+0000) > > link it. https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/zKlK88JJ-a-new-way-to-punish-players
Shiwah (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ceberuz,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ofyjAm6w,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-13T18:39:29.185+0000) > > Don't sweat it, in his eyes duo-boosting isn't breaking Riot rules, it's just being carried.., I'd like to know where you got that from... Fun fact, SMS verification can't be legally used in the EU as a mandatory piece of data to access a video game service.
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ofyjAm6w,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-13T18:43:38.090+0000) > > I'd like to know where you got that from... > > Fun fact, SMS verification can't be legally used in the EU as a mandatory piece of data to access a video game service. so you are saying that ranked is mandatory?
Ceberuz (EUW)
: Don't sweat it, in his eyes duo-boosting isn't breaking Riot rules, it's just being carried.., but it's valuable insight given that mentality must be shared in the Riot organisation, you get to understand why this game is so random and such a giant mess. OT though, smurfing is bad for both players and the ladder, should it have any sort of integrity, it could _almost_ be solved with SMS-verification given that disposable phone card is a thing of the past in the western world.
> [{quoted}](name=Ceberuz,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ofyjAm6w,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-13T18:39:29.185+0000) > > Don't sweat it, in his eyes duo-boosting isn't breaking Riot rules, it's just being carried.., but it's valuable insight given that mentality must be shared in the Riot organisation, you get to understand why this game is so random and such a giant mess. > > OT though, smurfing is bad for both players and the ladder, should it have any sort of integrity, it could _almost_ be solved with SMS-verification given that disposable phone card is a thing of the past in the western world. yep that is a good idea and RIOT did that with CLASH. but a 'senior emissary' told me in the other post i made today that that is not possible due to legal reasons. he could not explain it in detail bcz it is complicated and he is no lawyer.
: I don't see how he's harassing you since you're the one that started it by flaming him for being an emissary... still didn't explain what being something on the boards has to do with anything on gameplay
> [{quoted}](name=ned the kled,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ofyjAm6w,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-08-13T18:39:57.895+0000) > > I don't see how he's harassing you since you're the one that started it by flaming him for being an emissary... > > still didn't explain what being something on the boards has to do with anything on gameplay on an other post..
Shiwah (EUW)
: Not sure about the link between smurfing and being an emissary... care to explain? At least I'm glad you got the advice about properly presenting your real point.
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ofyjAm6w,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-13T18:35:35.117+0000) > > Not sure about the link between smurfing and being an emissary... care to explain? Cant you STOP harass me? THANK YOU.
Shiwah (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=VaVoem,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ofyjAm6w,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-08-13T18:26:03.516+0000) > > Everyone agreed that smurfing is bad for the game and for the players. No, they didn't.
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ofyjAm6w,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-13T18:30:21.031+0000) > > No, they didn't. sorry.. you, an emissary, think smurfing is good.. i wonder how long you keep that green ow and tnx for the feedback on this topic.. you are a great representative for Riot..
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