: Question: Are you basing these opinions entirely on what you experienced during the match? Or are you watching the replays of the games before posting? The reason why I ask is that it's almost impossible to get an accurate picture of what happened whilst you are playing the match.
> [{quoted}](name=Wandering Mist,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=isW2wARA,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-02-25T19:31:36.280+0000) > > Question: Are you basing these opinions entirely on what you experienced during the match? Or are you watching the replays of the games before posting? The reason why I ask is that it's almost impossible to get an accurate picture of what happened whilst you are playing the match. Good point, I will do this from now on to get a better view before commenting.
: I find it quite interesting that you call Vayne a troll when you objectively played worse than she did in the lane. Is it because she is a "smurf" and you therefore assumed she must be a Diamond player with godlike reflexes who can dodge every skillshot? Remember that you are in Silver 3, meaning she could have an account in Gold and technically be a smurf. Gold players aren't much better than Silver players. But let's compare a bit here. In the first 14 minutes (the time when the first turret was destroyed) of that game, you got hooked by Thresh 4 times, while Vayne got hooked only 2 times. Who is the troll then? Why is it that you are allowed to make mistakes, but anyone else making mistakes is clearly a troll? Also about that Riven, the sad thing is that even though she died 4 times in the first 14 minutes, 2 of those were from fiddlesticks ganks, and even after that she still kept even in cs. You on the other hand lost your lane 2v2. Who was the feeder? Here's the problem. It's easy to point the finger, to point out other people's mistakes and claim they are trolling, but a lot harder to point out your own. Were you trolling? I'm sure there would be people on these boards who would take a look at your gameplay and claim you are. If you expect to be given the benefit of the doubt, why not offer that same thing to your teammates?
I mentioned on my comment that I got hooked badly a couple of times. There is actually a method to the madness, when I think it will work in our favour, i allow myself to be hooked as I have found that a lot of Thresh players walk forwards as they attempt to flay (no doubt this tactic will get punished more the higher up I go). This allows me to E out and then pull with Q towards us when Thresh has been stunned or I can make a stun attempt on the enemy ADC as I am closer to them. This tactic, whether right or wrong, good or bad, does not make me a troll as I have a reason behind half of the hooks. Agreed that Riven got ganked a couple of times by Fiddle but a 0-5 Riven against a 3-1 Sylas who had already beat her in previous trades with less items (yes the fights were fairly close some times) and she was still trying to 1v1 half way down the lane with no vision. Vayne stated that she is a smurf in champ select. Now you are correct, when she mentioned smurf I assumed at least Platinum with better skills than were shown with 5cs/min (we all have bad days so maybe that was it). Your Riven comment about keeping up in CS even though being ganked or dying cuts both ways on this one. "I'm sure there would be people on these boards who would take a look at your gameplay and claim you are.". I am sure you are correct, there are going to be crap loads of people that think that I am rubbish and don't even deserve to be in Silver right now and should stick to ARAM or delete the game. I am not finger pointing, if I was I would be naming and shaming and this post would be deleted by the admins anyway. I am just talking about what I experienced in game in my opinion. I also mention and am critical of my own mistakes on being hooked, poor vision, poor decisions, map awareness etc... so if you want to call it finger pointing, then I also point that same finger right back at myself. "If you expect to be given the benefit of the doubt, why not offer that same thing to your teammates?" That's fair enough, but lets just say for arguments sake that I should be in great grand master and Ace the crap out of 10 games on the spin but I get 10 people who are having off days and should be given the benefit of the doubt but the games are lost anyway. I still lose about 160 LP with a demotion thrown in.
: Ranked Silver - Trolls, Inters, Feeders, AFK's and Flamers.
This keeps cutting my post short, I'm only getting to mid lane now and the rest of my post gets deleted even though in preview, i can see the entire post.
: Ranked Silver - Trolls, Inters, Feeders, AFK's and Flamers.
25-02-19 - Silver 3 - op.gg rank = MVP WIN - Troll, feeder, flamer. {{champion:92}} Top - Feeder, 0-5 in about 15 minutes and still overextending solo with no vision. {{champion:28}} Jgl - Played fairly well but needs to prioritise objectives more. No dragon attempt until mid/late. {{champion:101}} Mid - Flaming, "You are all useless" etc. {{champion:67}} ADC - Troll, supposed Smurf, tumbling after 2 auto's trying to kill the cannon before I can get the Aspect stack. Also unable to dodge Thresh hooks at all as he used tumble to try and last hit. Me ({{champion:555}} Support) - I made a few mistakes early getting caught by Thresh which made the lane much more difficult. I played much better mid game. My vision score and map awareness needs to improve.
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