Suptra (EUW)
: only people who downvote this is people who play on smurf accounts which like to AFK and troll because they dont care about their smurfs elo lol
Ding ding ding winning price of the day. Totally agree, smurfing is main problem.
: > [{quoted}](name=Vorosh,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=l2xB8Y3F,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-03-20T09:56:57.267+0000) > > If you play duo, then the sanction goes to both, its simple, its easy, 1 of the 2 afks, both get the sanction, that way we avoid the exploids. > Why should i be punished for my duo going afk? What if his internet failed, his power went out, he had an emergency or just didn't want to play anymore? How is that my fault and why would i get punished? Now you are just turning this thread in a no more duo/premades queue.
Those examples you are giving, are actually very unlikely and casual problems. I think is the best of the worst options so you avoid exploids. How many games you have a shutdown? 1 every 100? I havent had a shutdown in ages. I understand sometimes happens, but its not something that would really be a concern i believe. But as they say in a few posts below, this measure aint popular cause people have far too many smurfs accounts. Lol should start thinking a bit more about normal 1 acc players rather than smurfs.
: This idea is posted here about once every 2-3 days. Sounds good, doesn't work. There are just too many possibilities to abuse such a system. Just two examples: Either a friend plays on his smurf and goes afk, so that yo don't loose your LP or you just flame someone until he goes afk. This would just lead to more flaming in the game, as soon as a team starts to leave. The focus should be on coming back, not telling someone to go afk. Yes, it sucks. But you also have to see that you win some games, because the enemy has an afk in their team. Thre are 9 players beside you which ply this game - 4 in your team, 5 in the other team. If we assume, that you don't leave, the chance that a leaver is in the other team is hicher than a leaver in your team. So overall (law of big numbers and so on), you will win more games because of a leaver, than you loose because of a leaver. Also if you loose less LP, the enemy should win less LP, as otherwise it will lead to an inflation of LP. And if you look at the point before, you will have overall less LP than currently.
> Just two examples: Either a friend plays on his smurf and goes afk, so that yo don't loose your LP or you just flame someone until he goes afk. If you play duo, then the sanction goes to both, its simple, its easy, 1 of the 2 afks, both get the sanction, that way we avoid the exploids. The other problem you say, "flaming till afk" thats no realistic. Unfortunatedly i sometimes get flamed very hardly (plat V is terrible divi for flaming) and truth is, ive never ever afked. I flamed back, which has caused me trouble, or i simply muted them, if you afk for flame, then thats your problem, just like flaming back gets you into trouble, going afk should also get some penalty. I do understand you could get some other kind of exploids, but i am old dota player, and there was this divi, Sig, were this system was implemented, and... IT WORKED. You barely had afks, thats ofc, when you care about rankeds.
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