DavidK14 (EUNE)
: Discussion about toxic behaviour punishments.
Chat restrictions in general don't really do too much in my opinion. People just don't care if they get chat restricted. What they DO care about is losing their account, especially if they spent a lot of real world money on that account. If a "punishment" doesn't actually affect the person then the punishment is worthless. Internet culture is in a very unstable place right now, with many people thinking they can get away with saying whatever they like with no consequences. Punishments like banning of accounts are there partly to provide consequences for bad behaviour on the internet. Chat restrictions aren't nearly as effective at conveying that lesson.
: Sejuani support build (??)
I've never tried it but if I did I would probably take Aftershock instead of Unbound Spellbook, then Inspiration secondary with Biscuit Delivery and Approach Velocity to survive the laning phase. Sejuani can't really do too much in lane until she hits level 6 so your best option is to play passive and just survive the lane, then all-in at level 6.
PhoPhoW (EUW)
: Attack move is so difficult for me...
One thing that worked for me was to bind "attack move click" to the space bar. This makes stutter-stepping really easy as I can just alternate clicking the mouse and pressing space. I moved "centre camera on champion" (usually defaulted on space bar) to one of my side mouse buttons to compensate.
MrTeTe (EUNE)
: The Issue With AutoFill And How Riot Can Fix It
As Hansiman said, if you put this option in you might as well get rid of autofilling completely, because nobody likes to be autofilled.
DunQ (EUW)
: FLASH ON D OR F???
I've always had it on D, as it's closer to my normal resting position and therefore faster to activate than F.
HarleylKl (EUNE)
: Hey my dude. I just got matched with this guy https://imgur.com/a/STzuEeE . I was at diamond 3 70 lp. The player is plat 2. His highest rank this month was plat 2 60lp. I ended up being autofilled as adc and something felt off about my support, he didnt feel like diamond. He kept missing his abilities, didnt give me blackshield and so on so i decided to check his OP.gg. Picture is intentionally taken like that so no1 can see the names or id be spanked by mods for naming and shaming. The said player has 20% winrate as ADC and 27% winrate as support which is the lowest winrate you can get (duo to chance of being carried or just having some lucky games) And the most hilarious thing. When i jokingly invited him for the next game he accepted, but the game wouldnt let us duo because our ranks are too far apart. Yet the ranked matchmaking put him in my game (edit) And if you think im cherry picking, i can show you his full match history, which is just as tragic , if not even more.
Wow, that's sad. How does that even happen? I would be mortified if I got matched with a bunch of Diamond players as a Plat player (my highest rank in preseason was plat 2). It's not fair on anyone to have that sort of thing happen.
Rioter Comments
: He is not trying to win when we are already winning the game. It ended up way closer because the enemy caught up because of his AFK farming jungle. 1) I could taken the farm and got futher ahead and ended quicker 2) we could ignored the farm and pushed and ended quicker He went into jungle when we was ahead! Yes thats considered trolling. Watch the replay you find it in my history. You dont see the trolls because your definition on trolls are ONLY that poeple runs it down. There is way more option to how to troll then jsut that. This Varus was a plat (so he knows what he is doing) Yet he choose this to try to lose and to piss us off. As said, the game became way closer because of this Varus refusing to teamwork. I do have to say, your definition here is bull......
I tried watching the replay but it won't let me for some reason. That said the Varus you played with (assuming I'm looking at the right game) was a Gold 1 player. You are a Diamond player. What is obvious to you wouldn't be obvious to him. What the Varus did, I see all the time in Gold ranked games, because that is their response to being put behind. As you noted there are 2 things he could have done to help more to win the game, but he didn't know any better. My definition of a troll is someone who intentionally acts to lose, which is why you need to take a person's rank into account. A diamond player who is trolling might look very similar to a Gold player who is trying his hardest but having a bad game. How many mistakes is a player allowed to make before you claim they are trolling? How many deaths before they are intentionally feeding?
Kabakadamn (EUNE)
: META
Most players will just blindly follow whatever the pro players do, so watching the pro league matches from the LCS, LCK and LPL will keep you up to date. You can find them all here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvqRdlKsE5Q8mf8YXbdIJLw
: 90% of my games i get one of them, I would say i get around 30% trolls. Just had a varus afk farming jungle because he was behind and refusing to teamwork when we was winning.
Ok, let's talk about that Varus for a bit, because this is quite a common phenomenon. A carry champion gets put behind early and so afk farms for 20 minutes to get back into the match and be relevant again. Is this trolling? No, because that player is still trying to win. Are they doing the right thing by sitting back and farming for ages to be able to contribute to a fight? It depends on the match itself but usually no, especially if their team is winning. This is a matter of poor judgement and a desire not to give more kills to the enemy, NOT trolling. This kind of behaviour is usually from following bad calls early on that cause deaths, resulting in a mindset of "if I group with my team and follow the calls I will just die more, then get flamed and reported for feeding". But this is exactly what I'm talking about when I don't see trolls and inters but so many people claim that all their games are ruined by them. Those terms are thrown around so much that a lot of people use them incorrectly. Just because you have a negative k/d/a automatically means you are intentionally feeding. Just because you build something that isn't considered strictly "meta" means you are trolling. If you don't follow all the calls from the self-designated "leader" of the group (even when those calls are objectively bad ones), you are trolling.
: I encounter either trolls/flamers/toxicness etc more or less each game, i have played around 300 ranked and encountered those players in around 280 of the games. Thats around 90% of the games, am i just unlucky?
> [{quoted}](name=Bambreformed,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=90KbkNaU,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-01-20T07:51:31.154+0000) > > I encounter either trolls/flamers/toxicness etc more or less each game, i have played around 300 ranked and encountered those players in around 280 of the games. > > Thats around 90% of the games, am i just unlucky? Oh back when I actually read the chat in game I saw flaming in pretty much every game too, but no trolls and certainly no inters. So I'll ask you again, how many times have you encountered a legitimate troll or an intentional feeder in your matches?
xK1ra D3s (EUW)
: Easy, when u try to help them, I never flame them at start, I try to help, explain to them why is wrong, and if they keep doing it, I belive they are to dumb to understand some basic things, and that in my opinion is consider trolling, or if they just do it like its nothing. Its frustating that we cant advance because of them, i conside myself pretty good supp player, but i am hardsuck in silver
> [{quoted}](name=xK1ra D3s,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TLpioLX0,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-20T06:43:36.957+0000) > > Easy, when u try to help them, I never flame them at start, I try to help, explain to them why is wrong, and if they keep doing it, I belive they are to dumb to understand some basic things, and that in my opinion is consider trolling, or if they just do it like its nothing. > Its frustating that we cant advance because of them, i conside myself pretty good supp player, but i am hardsuck in silver Like I said, I had a match yesterday with an Ashe who made the exact same mistake 3 times. Yes it's frustrating to have to babysit people who are that stupid, but at the same time, being stupid and making mistakes isn't a reportable offence. If I had a pound for every time I died trying to help some idiot who got caught out of position, I could retire right now and never work another day of my life.
jEssIcA01lp (EUNE)
: Tnx for this commen,it help me a lot.Now i know what i do wrong and what i need to to to make my laneing phase better.But,one think.is it the good idea to when ur ADC take {{summoner:14}} ,you take {{summoner:7}} instead of him.That hapened very often.
> [{quoted}](name=jEssIcA01lp,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1Nts9dEY,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-19T22:54:31.926+0000) > > Tnx for this commen,it help me a lot.Now i know what i do wrong and what i need to to to make my laneing phase better.But,one think.is it the good idea to when ur ADC take {{summoner:14}} ,you take {{summoner:7}} instead of him.That hapened very often. No problem, and sorry if I went a bit too in-depth. I get rather into it all when I start watching replays. And yes, if your adc takes ignite it's usually good to take Heal for the lane.
Singko (EUW)
: League of Legends community is full of awful.. awful people.
> Online anonymity is great for protecting people but more needs to be done about the people who threaten your life in a game because they want your role and they got filled into Support and they don't want to play it so they'd rather kill you and take your lane than dodge and wait 5 minutes. Let me ask you something. How about times have you encountered a player who does this? So far this season I have played 288 ranked matches this preseason and I've encountered 3 legitimate trolls. The first was on the enemy team who got autofilled support and instead took top lane, forcing the top laner to pick a support and go bot. The other 2 happened in a game just now, a duo who wanted to bot/support but didn't get the support role and I refused to swap with them. So they went Shaco + Wukong and went mid together. That is it. 2,592 players I've encountered this preseason and only 3 legitimate trolls. That's 0.11574074074074073%. Did I just get lucky? Where are the hordes of trolls and inters that I hear everyone talking about? Surely if they exist I should have seen a lot more of them.
Shädäm (EUNE)
: The game needs a new "punishment"
So let me get this straight, you want to punish people because the games match-making system is broken, something that the players have absolutely no control over? Huh???
jEssIcA01lp (EUNE)
: Why not,i like that idea xD
> [{quoted}](name=jEssIcA01lp,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1Nts9dEY,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-19T20:22:04.497+0000) > > Why not,i like that idea xD Ok, here goes. The biggest mistake I see a lot of low ELO supports make is not pushing for the level 2 advantage. In the duo lane you hit level 2 from the third minion of the second wave, so keep an eye out for it and be ready to engage as soon as you hit level 2 (assuming your opponents are still level 1). You hit level 2 first but when it happened your Q was on cooldown and you weren't in position to punish Ezreal for being out of position. Had you done this you probably would have killed Ezreal and therefore not been ganked by Nunu at level 3. That said, the Nunu gank was really stupid by them and shouldn't have worked. Had you reacted to it quicker or simply just turned on Ezreal the moment he walked up, you would have at the very least traded kills. When you came back to lane you landed a nice binding onto Ezreal and Karma but lost the trade. This was partly because (for some reason) MF didn't buy any items when she died, but you could also do more damage and take less. Firstly you didn't fully use your passive here. You did Q then immediately E without an auto attack in between. You were in range to do this so it's something to keep in mind. Q-AA-E-AA would have taken Ezreal to half health, evening up the trade. You also didn't respect Ezreal's damage when he landed his W on you, which caused you to take a lot more damage from him in return. These are small things but they do add up over time. Shortly after that Ezreal (very stupidly) jumped on top of MF inside a big minion wave. He should have died for this mistake but instead of binding him you went for Karma who was way in the back. Another missed opportunity. In fact, most of the time you don't make too many outright mistakes, but at the same time you don't punish your opponents for their mistakes. For example, if the enemy adc uses their only escape tool to jump forwards for a single auto attack, punish them for it. If the enemy support uses a key ability (i.e. a hook or an empowered Karma Q) and misses, punish them for it. And by punish I don't mean rush for an all-in, but step up and poke them. Do that a few times and they will learn not to mess with you and give you the lane. Moving onto 8:40, Kha'zix comes for a gank and pushes their bot lane back. At this point you have 2 options: Let the wave freeze near your turret, or hard push it in so it resets. I personally would have let it freeze and recalled but Kha starts pushing, so your only option then is to help and hard push it on. Since (I hope) that you plan on recalling afterwards you can afford to use your mana to push in as fast as possible. You had 500g at that point which is enough for boots+ pink ward or an amp tome. Your third death was fine as it gave your team 3 kills and dragon, and I liked the fact that you pinged MF back when you saw her overextended. Skipping forward now to 14:14. MF had just recalled and you walk into the river with no backup when you see Ezreal and Karma in bot lane, and Nunu is missing. You take an initial hit from Karma taking you down to 2/3 health, then try to contest a ward in the tribush. You should have died here as Ezreal had his ulti and could easily have sniped you. The only reason why you survived is because Kha jumped in and was so fed that he 2-shot the Karma. Now I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you knew Kha was near enough to help you, but what you should have done was back off completely and then ping for assistance to help clear the tribush ward. I liked the fact that afterwards you took advantage of Nunu being dead to get vision in their botside jungle. This is something I see all too little from low ELO supports and it's a good sign. Just again make sure you ping MF to be careful while you do it, because more often than not your adc is so focused on getting farm they won't even realise you are gone. After that I'm not sure what you are afraid of but you are sitting so far back that you have absolutely no presence in the lane at all. You see Nunu is mid and Kha pings that he's coming bot to gank. This should have been a free double kill but you are so far away when Kha jumps in that all you can do is ulti. At this point in the laning phase you shouldn't be scared. You and MF has enough burst damage to instantly kill either Ezreal or Karma. All you have to do is land a binding and you kill them. As it was, Kha jumps in, realises he hasn't got help and has to flash out again. By contrast, check out what Karma does when Nunu ganks you immediately afterwards. She literally runs at you just before Nunu gets into vision and so is ready to use her abilities to help her jungler. So, based on that game the things I would focus on for your laning phase are: 1. Being aware of the level 2 power spike and using it if you have it. 2. Punish your enemies more for wasting abilities in lane. 3. Use your pings more to direct your teammates. Don't be afraid to spam pings if you see someone about to make a stupid mistake.
xK1ra D3s (EUW)
: Ur right, I was a bit mad when I wrote that, we do have bad games, it happends, but the sad thing is that trollers and feeders are more common then flamers, in 5 out of 10 games its somebody who threatens that they feed, or troll, and i am talking about the enemy team aswell, when they see that there is a big gap bettwen the score, they give up and start inting by running straight in to towers or fountain, or the other way as in the winning team gets over confident and start messing around, throwing the game (lost so many like that . Well from my point of view I see more trollers rather then flamers.
> [{quoted}](name=xK1ra D3s,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TLpioLX0,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-19T19:21:30.144+0000) > > Ur right, I was a bit mad when I wrote that, we do have bad games, it happends, but the sad thing is that trollers and feeders are more common then flamers, in 5 out of 10 games its somebody who threatens that they feed, or troll, and i am talking about the enemy team aswell, when they see that there is a big gap bettwen the score, they give up and start inting by running straight in to towers or fountain, or the other way as in the winning team gets over confident and start messing around, throwing the game (lost so many like that . > Well from my point of view I see more trollers rather then flamers. There's a difference between throwing a match due to overconfidence, and trolling. And yes people do supid stuff all the time. I just had a match where my adc Ashe died 3 times to the exact same mistake. I would see her overextended and about to get ganked, would ping her back, which she ignored and 10 seconds later she died. 3 times this happened. Is that trolling? No, she was just an idiot who had zero map awareness. Always keep in mind that things that are obvious to you, aren't to everyone. Jumping in 1v5 is obviously going to result in failure 90% of the time, and yet people still do it on a regular basis. Staying in lane overextended on 10% health is obviously a bad decision but I see it happen nearly every single match. Bearing in mind as well that I play ranked almost exclusively and only on my main account (I don't play on smurfs at all) so according to the system I am being matched with players of similar skill to myself. This is nearly never the case but that's matchmaking for you. So, how do you differentiate between someone who is trolling, someone who is tilted and someone who is just plain bad at the game?
jEssIcA01lp (EUNE)
: S.O.S
I can't duo with you as I'm not on EUNE but if you like I can look at some of your replays and see if there's anything obvious that you can improve on.
Magneset (EUW)
: An opinion piece on toxic behavior and how to deal with it.
In my opinion the report and punishment system we have is fine. The problem is that the majority of the playerbase (either intentionally or not) misuse it, flooding the system with false reports for "trolling" and "inting". Back before I started muting everyone at the start of every match, literally every single game I had at least one person wanting to report someone else for either "trolling" or "inting" when all that happened was that person had a bad game or was laning against a smurf who was much better than them. These are NOT reasons to report someone, and yet they do it anyway. In all my years of playing LoL I can only think of a handful of occasions where a player legitimately trolled or inted in a match. Hundreds of Thousands of matches and I'd say less than 100 players who trolled or inted. And yet there are people who consider anyone with a negative k/d/a to be "inting" and send report after report for no reason. Then of course we get premade groups that gang up on single players for absolutely no reason. I'm sure we've all been in situations like that, as a single player who got paired with a 4-man premade who didn't like the pick they chose and all reported that person simply for that. It's sad and a total abuse of the system. Until the community stops misuing and abusing the report system, nothing will improve.
MMD (EUW)
: i need guide
Haven't we been here before? I'm pretty sure I reviewed one of your Ziggs matches before and gave you some things to work on.
xK1ra D3s (EUW)
: I never said i dont feed, or i didnt, i play alot of lol, maybe more then half a day when i am off from work, most of its fill as I said, as for cait game was a bad pick, with all the team feeding, there are no excuses for bad games, and i didnt say anything about bad games, i say about inting, trolling, doing something on purpose, i have some games that i wonder about myself on how stupid i play
> I still try to win, I dont int,** feed **or do other dumb stuff, You literally say in your OP that you don't feed or do "other dumb stuff", but you clearly do, because everyone does. Even pro players have bad games, make stupid mistakes and feed. Should Riot ban you for staying in lane at half health in range of a renekton with ignite and fury built up? I watched that and saw that death of yours coming a mile off, it was so obvious. But sure, you never do "dumb stuff" right? Here's the problem. You naturally assume that everyone on your team has the same level of skill and game knowledge as you. They don't, no matter how good the MMR match making is, this will never happen. I regularly have matches where I can see someone about to go out of position and spam ping them back, but they ignore me and 10 seconds later they die. To me it was obvious what would happen but they might not know any better. Are they inting or trolling if they don't know any better?
xK1ra D3s (EUW)
: Dear Riot
"I never feed" he says with a 0/5/3 Caitlyn game and a 5/13/5 Jax game and a 1/6/4 Soraka game...... And that's just from a quick glance at your match history. Now I have no doubt that you have excuses galore for why you had a negative k/d/a on those matches, and I dare say that those excuses are legitimate. My question is, why are you allowed to have the occasional bad game but nobody else is? I'm sure if I took a look at your actual replays I could pick out a ton of "dumb stuff" that you do which is the reason you aren't winning more games. It's very easy to pick out someone else's mistakes, but a lot harder to pick out your own.
Cryptidian (EUNE)
: Call me old fashioned but I believe bot lane should be kept standard Marksman + Support
The meta is whatever the players decide it is. Sure Riot can influence it by buffing or nerfing certain things, but at the end of the day the meta is made by the players. To be honest, bot lane has been the most stagnant lane in terms of meta for the longest time, ever since the season 1 world championships, so I'm glad it's changing up a bit. It makes things more interesting. That said it probably won't be long before marksman are buffed against and we go back to using them in bot lane, but who knows, maybe this time it will change for good.
: Any fun/viable champion builds to spice up gameplay?
You say you've played AS Jhin, but have you tried full AP Jhin? One-shotting people with Jhin traps is very satisfying.
: give supports credit
"make the support role more enjoyable" How would you like to make a role that the players made up "more enjoyable"? "should make them get more credit" Again, How? If you have a suggestion on how to achieve this then let's hear it, but it sounds like you are just frustrated at not being thanked by your teammates for your efforts and want Riot to magically create a solution. I get it, as a support main I find it so frustrating when you can play absolutely perfectly and never a word is said, and then the moment you make a mistake you get flamed and insulted. But at the end of the day this is a community problem, not the games problem. In essence what you are asking is for the COMMUNITY (Not RIOT) to acknowledge support players more for the work they do. A simple "thanks" or "gj" is all I really want for my efforts, but those are very very rare, so rare in fact that I've given up hope of ever seeing it which is why I have everyone muted every single game.
: Disable Trollers
It's amazing how many people seem to forget that the bot lane meta is whatever the players decide. Here's a free history lesson for you: the adc + support bot Lane was developed in season 1 by the players, NOT Riot. All Riot did was make it easier to play that meta by introducing support only items and client functions. If you don't like the new meta then find a duo partner and play your "proper" adc and support lane, and get destroyed by the non-meta lanes.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: Turrets keep shooting during bard stasis.
I've had this a few times while playing Bard, it's really annoying. It never happened before this preseason so I'm not quite sure what they changed for the bug to appear.
: Do you push out before you roam? It's basic but often forgotten
> [{quoted}](name=Dividedby0error,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=1WqGrRKI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-18T08:37:20.126+0000) > > Do you push out before you roam? It's basic but often forgotten Why not just watch one of his replays, then you can see for yourself.
Thresh af (EUW)
: Is it possible to get good at the game just by practicing?
Just practice alone isn't going to make you a good player. It's HOW you practice that matters. Someone playing 5 hours of bot games a day is going to improve a lot less than someone who plays 5 hours of Diamond ranked games a day. Talent also does have an impact too. I could practice 12 hours a day every day and I'd never have the mechanical skill that Faker does, even though I've been playing LoL since season 1 (before there was even a LoL Korean server). If you are really serious about improving though you need to do more than just play lots of matches. You need to study. Watch replays of your matches to see the mistakes you made or opportunities you missed, and watch pro player analysis videos to see how to play different match ups.
: Help me improve
Hi there. I'm just watching one of your recent games where you lost as Ahri (4/10/12 against Neeko). I have a few points about how you played out the laning phase. First of all you didn't use the level advantage you had over Neeko. You hit level 2 way before Neeko did but weren't in a position to abuse it. Keep an eye on the minions so you know who is going to hit level 2 first and act accordingly (first minion of the second wave for a solo lane). After that you took some bad trades against Neeko resulting in her having a health lead over you, plus more potions left. To add to this the wave was in the perfect spot to get ganked and that's exactly what happened, burning your flash. If you had used your level 2 advantage better this might not have happened, as Neeko would have been lower on health and mana from your trades and then having to last hit under the turret. As for the gank itself, you could have survived it without using your flash. Just before Nocturne ganked you, Rengar was moving into the top-side river. It's always a good idea to position yourself on the side of the lane where you either have support from your team or clear vision. If you had stayed on the top-side of the lane you could have just walked away towards Rengar. If they had chased you they would have run straight into Rengar. Anyway, after that Rengar ganked for you and got you a kill, but then immediately left. Ideally he should have helped you push the wave into the turret. Don't be afraid to ping him to do so, as this will help you push in faster (denying more minions from Neeko) and protect you from Nocturne. You were lucky that Nocturne was running back from base at this point, because had he been around mid he would have come and killed you before you had pushed in the wave. These seem like small things but if you still had your flash available for the 2v2 fight (nocturne's first ulti) you would have killed Neeko and lived. On a side note when you are playing a solo lane you need to think of it as a 2v2, not a 1v1 (mid laner + jungler). Unless you know exactly where the enemy jungler is, assume they are about to gank you. As it was you got caught out a few times because you went all-in without knowledge of the enemy team. So, based on that match, the things in the laning phase I would focus on are: 1. Use your level advantages for better trades 2. Position in the lane according to where you have support and vision 3. Be more aware of the enemy jungler and support
chefff v2 (EUW)
: How to stop being toxic
If you can't stop yourself from typing rubbish in chat or getting into arguments with others, mute everyone before you get into the match.
Mártir (EUW)
: How can you win games without 'Communicating'? Idk, Muting everyone every game just like that...
> [{quoted}](name=Mártir,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=zEsZB6o8,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2019-01-17T12:55:33.371+0000) > > How can you win games without 'Communicating'? > > Idk, Muting everyone every game just like that... With pings. At low ELO the tactics of most players consist of "help me" "go here" "back off" all of which can be done with pings. It's only once you get to high Diamond and Masters that you get players who type relevant stuff in the chat.
Rioter Comments
MMD (EUW)
: idk
I think it means you were the best performing player on the losing team. Just a guess though.
Silent Note (EUNE)
: Does anyone use seperate runepages?
Since I only play 2-3 champions at a time it's easier for me to have separate runepages for each, and then tweak them on a match by match basis.
aniakhaki (EUNE)
: I see that you understand what he did. But i do have a question: Why would you further que as support? I mean he played support last game as you said so he was going to get guaranteed whatever lane he picks. And I have another point. Have you ever seen a match won by a support gone rogue apc?(I have never). So in my opinion he basically made that 50% chance to win into 0% chance to win. And if that does not deserve ban I don't know what does
> [{quoted}](name=aniakhaki,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=2fArhP46,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-01-16T07:39:28.623+0000) > > I see that you understand what he did. But i do have a question: Why would you further que as support? > I mean he played support last game as you said so he was going to get guaranteed whatever lane he picks. > And I have another point. Have you ever seen a match won by a support gone rogue apc?(I have never). So in my opinion he basically made that 50% chance to win into 0% chance to win. And if that does not deserve ban I don't know what does He's a support main so chances are he never plays any other lane. Just because he can play Xerath as support doesn't mean he can play it as a mid laner. I agree that he shouldn't have queued up again in such a poor emotional state, but we've all done it at one time or another. Here's the problem: You are wanting to ban someone for essentially being tilted. Now can you honestly say that you have never been tilted during a match and made stupid mistakes in a fit of anger and rage? By your logic you should be banned for that. And of course at the same time we need to ban around 95% of the playerbase. Where do we draw the line between someone who is tilted into making bad judgements and someone who is legitimately trolling? Are you qualified to make that judgement based on a single game?
Ròkkles (EUW)
: Getting a 14 day bann for calling trolls and toxic people idiots and dumbasses.
Which "trolls" are you referring to here? Care to give an example?
: How not to get frustrated?
I know it's not what you want to hear but statistically speaking there is a higher chance of trolls on the enemy team than there are in your team. If we assume that you aren't a troll yourself, then there are 5 potential trolls on the enemy team but only 4 potential trolls on your team. Anywhoooo.......The way I prevent getting frustrated is by muting everyone the moment I get into a match, every match. As soon as the match starts I type "all muted so I can focus" and then mute everyone. This makes it clear to my teammates that I can't read anything they say and I don't have to read any of the nonsense they type. I have no patience for it and I know that anyone below Diamond isn't going to say anything useful that can't be explained by pings. That way I avoid getting into pointless arguments and flame-fests and can focus on my own gameplay. No distractions means better gameplay.
Ahyum (EUW)
: Best adc !!!!
You play normal blind pick matches and you're surprised that you aren't playing with people of your own standard? Are you for real?
aniakhaki (EUNE)
: Is riot taking trolls seriously?
You know, I see a lot of these threads and a lot of the "trolling" mentioned is either false or hugely exagerated. But that Xerath you had in your match....oh my god it made me sad to watch it. For a plat 3 support main to act out like that is unacceptable. The thing is, I can kinda see why he did it. If you check that guys match history you'll see in his game just before that he was playing Xerath support and went 0/3/1. I took a quick look at it just to see how he played there. In that match he played like a proper support, letting his adc farm and poking out the enemy bot lane with his spells as much as possible without pushing the wave. Unfortunately in that match he was laning with an overly aggressive Draven who traded at completely the wrong times, resulting in them losing the lane. I got tilted just by watching it let alone playing it out, so I can understand how Xerath would have felt. After a match like that it's not surprising that he would attempt to carry the next game solo, not trusting his adc to do it and therefore taking all the farm and exp he could. I've felt exactly the same after a bad game and it's very tempting to do what he did. Does that excuse him trolling you in your match? Absolutely not, but at the same time I can understand what happened and the thought process involved, and in my opinion it doesn't deserve a ban.
Playerh8a (EUW)
: Garen - Newbie Questions
I don't play Garen but this video might help you with some things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDE__AAlBp8
: Opinions on Off Meta (Example: Ezreal Top)
Here's what I think. If nobody ever experimented with new picks in new roles then the meta and the game would become very stagnant and boring. And before anyone says something like "oh leave that to the pro players who know what they are doing." I would like to point out that a lot of strategies that became meta were originally thought up by low ranked players. It was a silver player who thought up the Blue Ezreal Build that brought him back into the meta. It was a low ranked player who first started playing Malzahar support. The pro players copied these and brought them into pro play and made them meta, but they started with someone in low ELO experimenting.
DELDE115 (EUW)
: My opinion goes as follows. - If it makes sense, I dont care. - If it doesn´t make sense, then Im not a fan. By "makes sense" I mostly mean if the champion´s kit fits the role.
> [{quoted}](name=DELDE115,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=uyqOeMqj,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-15T17:40:06.983+0000) > > My opinion goes as follows. > > - If it makes sense, I dont care. > - If it doesn´t make sense, then Im not a fan. > > By "makes sense" I mostly mean if the champion´s kit fits the role. Ezreal's kit definitely doesn't fit the traditional role of a jungler, but it worked perfectly well.
Cavalier707 (EUNE)
: You can almost play anything top lane. The lane has the most versatility in the game. Off meta pick are fine as long as the are reasonable. You can Play Amumu support because he has tons of CC, but you can't play a champion with no poke or utility like Yi support because that's trolling, not off meta.
> [{quoted}](name=Cavalier707,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=uyqOeMqj,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-01-15T18:03:56.483+0000) > > You can almost play anything top lane. The lane has the most versatility in the game. Off meta pick are fine as long as the are reasonable. > > You can Play Amumu support because he has tons of CC, but you can't play a champion with no poke or utility like Yi support because that's trolling, not off meta. The role of the support is to provide pressure in the lane and allow your lane partner to freely farm. If you can manage that with Master Yi then why not use him as a support?
M3GTRDragon (EUNE)
: teemo can be picked...but most people dont know how to use him xd the ward master xd
> [{quoted}](name=M3GTRDragon,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=zEsZB6o8,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2019-01-15T10:17:02.473+0000) > > teemo can be picked...but most people dont know how to use him xd > the ward master xd Indeed. Teemo support is actually very strong. Poison ticks do quite a bit of damage and Blinding is insanely powerful in all-ins against auto attack reliant champions. Plus in the mid-late game Teemo shrooms are essentially free wards for your team. The problem is that a lot of people who pick Teemo support are obsessed with staying in the bushes, which doesn't achieve anything. All you have to do to counter it is stay on the river-side of the lane and you can ignore the Teemo completely, effectively turning the lane into a 2v1. In fact, this is a trend I see from a lot of low ELO supports I face. They are obsessed with having bush control and will just sit afk in the bushes instead of playing with their adc.
Maın (EUW)
: 78 kills on your most killed, thats so low, what random teams are you facing all the time xD i only see the same champs
> [{quoted}](name=Maın,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=PompKEVy,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-01-15T09:15:01.535+0000) > > 78 kills on your most killed, thats so low, what random teams are you facing all the time xD i only see the same champs Well, as a support main it's not too surprising.
: This. Not sure if freezing is a good idea. You want to put pressure. Freezing offers nothing to the (your)team. Objectives come to a cost: tempo. Some objectives should be neglected as a laner. You want that objective? Put pressure somewhere else and let the jungle take it for free. Low elo is a blast.
> [{quoted}](name=Lilandblue,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=zEsZB6o8,comment-id=00070001,timestamp=2019-01-14T15:09:05.476+0000) > > This. > Not sure if freezing is a good idea. You want to put pressure. Freezing offers nothing to the (your)team. > > Objectives come to a cost: tempo. Some objectives should be neglected as a laner. You want that objective? Put pressure somewhere else and let the jungle take it for free. > > Low elo is a blast. When done well freezing does apply pressure as it forces your lane opponent to do one of three things: 1. Stay safe and be denied Farm. 2. Overextend and use their abilities to break the freeze, leaving them vulnerable to ganks. 3. Call their jungle to help break the freeze, relieving pressure from the other lanes.
xNeekø (EUNE)
: I feel like it could block a whole combo,I just feel like that but yeah,ya never know! It would be pretty exciting tbh.
> [{quoted}](name=xNeekø,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BZy3cB5V,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-15T04:12:48.906+0000) > > I feel like it could block a whole combo,I just feel like that but yeah,ya never know! > It would be pretty exciting tbh. Well they could always change it so that the clone only has 5 health, meaning it will die to literally anything in a single hit.
xNeekø (EUNE)
: I've got to agree on that but maybe that would be too broken? I don't know how it would work if the clone could block everything that fast as well
> [{quoted}](name=xNeekø,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BZy3cB5V,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-15T04:00:20.334+0000) > > I've got to agree on that but maybe that would be too broken? > I don't know how it would work if the clone could block everything that fast as well As it is the clone can only block 1 spell before it's destroyed, so I don't think it would be too broken.
TB Sadik (EUW)
: Nasus needs to be fixed
I'm not going to lie, I'm a little bit salty about Nasus right now as I just lost a match where the enemy Nasus single-handedly destroyed our base while my team was taking Baron. Inhib died in 3 hits. Nexus Turrets died in 3 hits and the Nexus itself was destroyed in 5 hits.
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