UnicornoBoy (EUNE)
: Honey, This is not right place to get attention ;)
Kid, not all people are like you. If talking about the rules of league and fair matchmaking is " getting attention " on your opinion then, you have a serious mental illness. You should go to a doctor.
: I know; I was just talking about the elo boost because someone claimed that he could have elo boosted the account. Didn't mean to direct the ELO Boost to you, I know that you weren't accusing him of it. Apologies if I confused you about that part :)
Oh, I see now. Have a good night/day, mate.
: Well ill go ahead and assume you're posting from a smurf account but i personally could never win any game 1v2 as a ADC, even a kog-janna is enough to drive a solo opponent away, ADC were designed to be weak and reliant on their team and especially the support via their weak early game and lack of survival abilities. Some exceptions but that is mainly the case. As for Ghost to lane.... i can't say i really know about him? From what i saw in the 2 videos 1 thing was easy. The idea of having a challenger que with 4 bronze to stomp a game is ridiculous and shouldn't actually be allowed, it ruins experiences for the newer players who get to play against it. As for his second deal.....i didn't understand exactly but i got the impression he lent an diamond account to a bronzie and had him play on it? I am fairly sure this shouldn't be allowed either but i am unsure so i can't say.
> [{quoted}](name=Thefrostyviking,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=00060000000100000000,timestamp=2017-03-21T02:18:44.973+0000) > > Well ill go ahead and assume you're posting from a smurf account but i personally could never win any game 1v2 as a ADC, even a kog-janna is enough to drive a solo opponent away, ADC were designed to be weak and reliant on their team and especially the support via their weak early game and lack of survival abilities. Some exceptions but that is mainly the case. Hm, I would not like to call it smurf account, since I don't play on it xD I've made it to play with my friends on EUW. And I've never faced a newbie, don't worry. Only if they're premades with high levels. Smurf account are queued in smurf queue. > > As for Ghost to lane.... i can't say i really know about him? From what i saw in the 2 videos 1 thing was easy. > > The idea of having a challenger que with 4 bronze to stomp a game is ridiculous and shouldn't actually be allowed, it ruins experiences for the newer players who get to play against it. > > As for his second deal.....i didn't understand exactly but i got the impression he lent an diamond account to a bronzie and had him play on it? I am fairly sure this shouldn't be allowed either but i am unsure so i can't say. Yes, that's it. Not only 2 videos but a lot.
: Ofcourse they would be mad at that moment. But I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be pissed off 100%. People overreact at the moment they feel frustation, when they haven't realised the intent of it. Plus, Like I've said before, and I will repeat, but with more details. Pro's play ~10 games a day. Every single day. Every single week. They will likely forget about that match as fast as Donald Trump demanding the building of the Great Wall Of America. And if you lose a match with some damn %%%%%%, it's very likely that sometimes it will happen to the enemy team. So enough. The only argument you have is that they were sharing accounts. That's the only thing it can be questionably discussed in this thread. Anything else is not right to talk, because there are no evidence of Ghost to Lane boosting, nor he is shown to be disturbing the game. Have you seen any game that the enemy team gave up because they knew the other guy was way better/ their teammate was bronze? I think you have not
> > The only argument you have is that they were sharing accounts. That's the only thing it can be questionably discussed in this thread. Anything else is not right to talk, because there are no evidence of Ghost to Lane boosting, nor he is shown to be disturbing the game. Have you seen any game that the enemy team gave up because they knew the other guy was way better/ their teammate was bronze? > I think you have not Well, I have not mention " boosting " at the thread or at any comment I've made. I've mentioned that he's ruining people's games. And the account sharing is what I'm talking about. But, boosting? I don't see any booting. He's placing a Bronze on a Diamond account. That's not boosting, that's account sharing. And placing a Challenger in a Bronze account is still account sharing but it's " kind of " boosting because he has one that game for the Bronze player but, it's just one game so, I'll stick to the account sharing.
: I'll just ignore that insult of yours of "You are high no doubt", excuse me. Anyways, why are you sticking to that argument? "Hey this house is burning but it's not mine so I don't care" You're comparing a house burning to a game. Completely opposite. One thing is talking about lifes. Other thing is feeling raged for a moment for not being good yet. P.S- If you want to keep the insult, go ahead. You will lose reason. Also, respect people's opinion. This is mine, you have yours. I gave mine, you can not like it, but you have to respect it. I did not disrepect at any stance of this thread so far.
Insulting?Well, high means drunk. I had no intent to insult you. I can edit it if you want. Of course you have your opinion, and I have mine. I'm not making you to change yours. We're just " Making a conversation" but, of course, you can disagree with my opinion and I can aswell. Without any insulting. I'll repeat it again, I had no intent to insult you.
: ***
One of the Diamonds who was playing with Bronze who is on a Diamond account was Tobias Fate, Go ask him how is his feeling after losing because of a Bronze Kha'zix on a diamond account. And another game, the Bronze one was Riven , he has played against Challenger Fiora , EX-Pro They could have won easily if they didn't have Riven. Go ask them yourself. How are they feeling? Sure, he's not ruining their games. In high elo games, you need every point.
: Overal smurfing on itself cannot be banned. However their are a few ways it can be punished: * Account sharing (if this is not his own account) * Inting (their is no way a challenger player can be placed in bronze after his placements, however pre-season kinda made it possible now so it's hard to point this one out). * Boosting, again that's hard to judge and a lot of high elo's have been punished for it while they didn't deserve it. If a challenger player just want to play a game with his friends, you could agrue that they should play normals in that scenario but we all known the normal quality has become even worse now ever since the release of ranked flex so it's actually an really complex discussion what high elo players should be punished for it or not. An boosting service is much different and should be punished but some cases are really hard to judge without risking to abuse of any official privacy laws. He changed his name btw: https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=fckriiotandme Banning this account won't be directly possible tho: * **Account sharing:** Their is no proof that the normals games that where played their where done by another player unless riot track the IP locations. It's perfectly possible to get an kda in normals (in normals litterly everything is possible right now...). * **Intentionally feeding:** None of the recorded games out their this happend yet. * **Boosting:** Only detects if this is done multiplay times with the same people over the course of multiplay games. Currently only 3 ranked games where played like this with an 66.6% winratio. That's not called boosting. ---- Besides Account sharing their is no way this account can be banned. For the other players with him is a different story tho since the rule of inting actually was aplied their. #Edite: Actually the account can be banned now. How stupid can you be with changing the name like that. >< * Inappropriate Name
And I'm talking about his main accounts which is " Ghost to lane " NA.
: Overal smurfing on itself cannot be banned. However their are a few ways it can be punished: * Account sharing (if this is not his own account) * Inting (their is no way a challenger player can be placed in bronze after his placements, however pre-season kinda made it possible now so it's hard to point this one out). * Boosting, again that's hard to judge and a lot of high elo's have been punished for it while they didn't deserve it. If a challenger player just want to play a game with his friends, you could agrue that they should play normals in that scenario but we all known the normal quality has become even worse now ever since the release of ranked flex so it's actually an really complex discussion what high elo players should be punished for it or not. An boosting service is much different and should be punished but some cases are really hard to judge without risking to abuse of any official privacy laws. He changed his name btw: https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=fckriiotandme Banning this account won't be directly possible tho: * **Account sharing:** Their is no proof that the normals games that where played their where done by another player unless riot track the IP locations. It's perfectly possible to get an kda in normals (in normals litterly everything is possible right now...). * **Intentionally feeding:** None of the recorded games out their this happend yet. * **Boosting:** Only detects if this is done multiplay times with the same people over the course of multiplay games. Currently only 3 ranked games where played like this with an 66.6% winratio. That's not called boosting. ---- Besides Account sharing their is no way this account can be banned. For the other players with him is a different story tho since the rule of inting actually was aplied their. #Edite: Actually the account can be banned now. How stupid can you be with changing the name like that. >< * Inappropriate Name
Account sharing for sure :) at first palce
: There's definitely no boost here. There's a reason that the video is published with commercials about PROGUIDES. I'm sure they would NEVER mess around with guys who do not go through the rule, especially in the "boosting" area. You could call illegal only in the part of sharing the account. But that's about it really. There's no evidence of boosters. You can't just make a statement like "That guy is definitely boosting" without actual evidence. Imagine if our world thought just like you. That's basically what journals have become this age.
It's not one match it's not two matches , it's more than ten. And not beacsue it wasn't against with me or with me I would not talk, Hey this house is burning but it's not mine so I don't care. Imagine if all the people like you.
yeIIowbag (EUW)
: i 100% agree. the videos he makes are just dumb, the whole beef he had with lozo was dumb as well.
> [{quoted}](name=yeIIowbag,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2017-03-20T11:01:21.293+0000) > > i 100% agree. > > the videos he makes are just dumb, the whole beef he had with lozo was dumb as well. {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
: I loved to watch him for his custom games but this is not okay. Before riot bans him i think a warning should be sufficient.
> [{quoted}](name=Dragonis Gardia,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-03-20T06:59:03.505+0000) > > I loved to watch him for his custom games but this is not okay. Before riot bans him i think a warning should be sufficient. A warning of ban for 7-14 days would be fine, and see if he doea it again or not.
: why is it? he is playing with a band of 5 as they do not care if they win, their only Goal is to give twitch 100 kills.
> [{quoted}](name=This is Afr0,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-03-20T07:13:19.426+0000) > > why is it? > he is playing with a band of 5 as they do not care if they win, their only Goal is to give twitch 100 kills. Watch the videos dude.. And the one about placing Bronze in Diamond solo Q. There's a lot.
: I get it when a youtuber tries to get a little fame with gaming, maybe even some extra money. But he needs a ban. I have no problem with other vids that he makes.(For example x best y champ player NA fvs x best y champ player EUW or something like that). Screwing ranked and stuff like that.. no please. But I do not dislike this sort of videos where he does stuff like that. I don't think he needs a permaban. At first maybe just 7-14 days. If he continues with vids like this, then permaban.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkest Death,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2017-03-20T13:05:16.380+0000) > > I get it when a youtuber tries to get a little fame with gaming, maybe even some extra money. But he needs a ban. I have no problem with other vids that he makes.(For example x best y champ player NA fvs x best y champ player EUW or something like that). Screwing ranked and stuff like that.. no please. But I do not dislike this sort of videos where he does stuff like that. I don&#x27;t think he needs a permaban. At first maybe just 7-14 days. If he continues with vids like this, then permaban. Yea, at least a warning and see if he stops thia kind of videos. Custom games are fine.
: For how many games are we talking about?
> [{quoted}](name=DimitrisTheGreat,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2017-03-20T13:23:41.214+0000) > > For how many games are we talking about? Check his channel. SO MANY GAMES. Not only 2.
: Have you actually watched his streams? He starts his games by taking one of his own junglers big camps, preferably red if possible. And if he has a bad start to the game he runs around taking his own junglers camps " Because they can get gold ganking anyway" . And you do not win 1v2 with cait if the enemy botlane is even half decent, only chance you have is a mage like ziggs. I myself am a jack of all trades but i have focus on ADC and a good amount of experience as a support. I made it to plati in 110 games when i played solo last season. Therefore i know beyond all doubts that its utterly impossible to win 1v2 bot unless the other side is asleep or takes pity on you. They will have wards and can play super aggressive zoning you out from minions and freezing the waves while you gotta tower hug due to no wards and being alone against 2 people. oh and if you lose because you can't 1v2 you are a dumbass for picking whatever champ you picked instead of whatever he thinks you should have. ( He didn't actually say this, his words were " why pick Caitlyn when you could have gone Xerath and just farmed at tower?" When his botlane got crushed by a nami-draven combo) And that sorta thing happens a lot, and those on his team who can't "adapt" are the mentally handicapped ones apparently. Then there is also the enemy jungler, if they go bot they can dive for days, something that happens very frequently in TakeTheDraws games, nearly all the games he loses is because the enemy botlane got too fed or because he himself fed the enemy jungler too hard. And many times when he goes invading he actually dies and gives firstblood, and if he dies 3 more times after that he just runs into enemy base to feed as quickly as possible so the game ends. Oh and you also lose nearly all dragon pressure once the enemy bot snowballs, 3 infernals for the enemy team? GG. Good strategy 10/10. (This seriously happens a lot in his lost games) This guy is a toxic, salty, egoistical F**ker who seems to view everyone else below him because that is how he treats anyhow who "dares to question" his "genius" strategy. Meanwhile nearly all his wins comes from being carried, well played.
> [{quoted}](name=Thefrostyviking,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=000600000001,timestamp=2017-03-20T13:16:23.735+0000) > > Have you actually watched his streams? He starts his games by taking one of his own junglers big camps, preferably red if possible. And if he has a bad start to the game he runs around taking his own junglers camps &quot; Because they can get gold ganking anyway&quot; . No, I don't watch his streams.Only one video and Brofersco video about him > > Therefore i know beyond all doubts that its utterly impossible to win 1v2 bot unless the other side is asleep or takes pity on you. They will have wards and can play super aggressive zoning you out from minions and freezing the waves while you gotta tower hug due to no wards and being alone against 2 people. Before the remake system, I used to play 1 vs 2 in botlane because of afk, sometimes I lose so bad, sometimes I take advantage.Depends on my champion and the enemy champion > > > > > > Oh and you also lose nearly all dragon pressure once the enemy bot snowballs, 3 infernals for the enemy team? GG. Good strategy 10/10. > (This seriously happens a lot in his lost games) > > > This guy is a toxic, salty, egoistical F**ker who seems to view everyone else below him because that is how he treats anyhow who &quot;dares to question&quot; his &quot;genius&quot; strategy. > > I see, you're kinda right. Let's stop talking about him now and focus on ghost.
: Don't forget that he also makes videos with scripters, that shoudn't be allowed either since it make more people look up scripting and will lead to more scripters.
> [{quoted}](name=SB Arneeman,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-03-19T21:51:38.527+0000) > > Don&#x27;t forget that he also makes videos with scripters, that shoudn&#x27;t be allowed either since it make more people look up scripting and will lead to more scripters. He should get banned.
: TakeTheDraw got unbanned though? Now he is still out there, ditching his ADC´s to die alone, giving up turrets, firstblood and stuff while ranting why his strategy is good. Meanwhile a lot of people watching his streams get the impression that he gets carried, and i personally have never seen him carry a single game. And nearly every single ADC and quite a few junglers that play with him hate him like a plague. Old rules are outdated but the content used to mean something, don't have fun on the expense of others was one of the old core rules :(
> [{quoted}](name=Thefrostyviking,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-03-19T20:09:37.983+0000) > > TakeTheDraw got unbanned though? Now he is still out there, ditching his ADC´s to die alone, giving up turrets, firstblood and stuff while ranting why his strategy is good. > > Meanwhile a lot of people watching his streams get the impression that he gets carried, and i personally have never seen him carry a single game. And nearly every single ADC and quite a few junglers that play with him hate him like a plague. > > Old rules are outdated but the content used to mean something, don&#x27;t have fun on the expense of others was one of the old core rules :( I don't want to talk about it but, he does nothing wrong to get banned and yes he is unbanned now. I mean, your jungler takes all the camps on your jungle, the Nunu takes the camps on the enemy jungle. The enemy jungle will have nothing to take and that will make him out the game. And if the ADC is playing someone like Cait he'll take an advantage playing 1 vs 2. Playing safe a bit won't make you lose tho. :) And if this out of meta , so as main ADC myself. I'm reporting every Malazhar and Brand because they're out of meta and ruining my games :) - I don't report them- I'm just giving an example. And I know I've talked about it now by this reply but, let's make this topic end right here because this thread isn't about him, it's about Ghost To Lane and let's focus about it :)
GLurch (EUW)
: >rioters opened his streams and banned every account this is unfair Riot gave him over 20 chances, warned him a lot of times, at some point, they need to draw a line.
> [{quoted}](name=GLurch,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-03-19T18:22:01.750+0000) > > Riot gave him over 20 chances, warned him a lot of times, at some point, they need to draw a line. That's not my point as I said this thread isn't about him
: 1º- I believe it's not intent of Ghost to Lane to provide good guides, at all. 2º- Yes, it is not correct to do that, but it isn't illegal aswell. The same way smurfs are morally not correct, but it's still legal. 3º- This has nothing to do compared to Tyler1. He was permanently banned for his rage when he was losing/didn't get draven. That was pure toxicity; however, it's not shown toxicity in Ghost to Lane's Videos. 4º- If you're saying that this was wrong, you're basically saying that Challenger players should always face similar skill, no matter of the time they might have not spent in the game, and so on to the other ranks. In other words, you're deffending the stallness of higher ranks. Which is actually what Riot does not deffend. I know it isn't morally correct, but it isn't reason enough. Plus, the other team will only get rekt for a match. I'm pretty sure they will have more games to compensate.
> [{quoted}](name=Extreme keel,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-03-19T18:18:32.269+0000) > > 1º- I believe it&#x27;s not intent of Ghost to Lane to provide good guides, at all. > 2º- Yes, it is not correct to do that, but it isn&#x27;t illegal aswell. The same way smurfs are morally not correct, but it&#x27;s still legal. > 3º- This has nothing to do compared to Tyler1. He was permanently banned for his rage when he was losing/didn&#x27;t get draven. That was pure toxicity; however, it&#x27;s not shown toxicity in Ghost to Lane&#x27;s Videos. > 4º- If you&#x27;re saying that this was wrong, you&#x27;re basically saying that Challenger players should always face similar skill, no matter of the time they might have not spent in the game, and so on to the other ranks. In other words, you&#x27;re deffending the stallness of higher ranks. Which is actually what Riot does not deffend. > > > > > I know it isn&#x27;t morally correct, but it isn&#x27;t reason enough. Plus, the other team will only get rekt for a match. I&#x27;m pretty sure they will have more games to compensate. What about placing Bronze in Diamond ? Lol
: Tyler1 wasn't banned cause he beat a rioteer in a match. He was banned for being toxic as well as flat out running it down mid when things didn't go his way or if Draven was banned.
> [{quoted}](name=Hailey Hayato,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-03-19T17:52:21.318+0000) > > Tyler1 wasn&#x27;t banned cause he beat a rioteer in a match. He was banned for being toxic as well as flat out running it down mid when things didn&#x27;t go his way or if Draven was banned. First of all , I'm not a Tyler 1 fan and I didn't even watch his streams Second of all : this thread isn't about him xD and finally he said that half of his account was banned because of toxic but the rest rioters opened his streams and banned every account this is unfair btw let's not make this thread about him :)
: He definitely shouldn't be placing challengers in bronze **Ranked** games, he should be using custom games for this kind of thing, doing real ranked games is plain stupid since it's pretty much impossible for a Bronze team to win with a challenger around, and that could be a really important game for some people, so yeah I agree as well
> [{quoted}](name=the ultamate,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-03-19T17:46:06.951+0000) > > He definitely shouldn&#x27;t be placing challengers in bronze **Ranked** games, he should be using custom games for this kind of thing, doing real ranked games is plain stupid since it&#x27;s pretty much impossible for a Bronze team to win with a challenger around, and that could be a really important game for some people, so yeah I agree as well And he's placing Bronze in Diamond solo Q too :) You can watch the video That's pathetic dude
: > [{quoted}](name=You die for free,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-03-19T17:37:39.521+0000) > > This is not my point dude. > > His whole Videos is about this idiotic videos. > > This is not fun, this is not helpful. This is sux and pathetic. ye lol, sorr i just had to make the comment6
> [{quoted}](name=Kokiri Star,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-19T17:38:34.867+0000) > > ye lol, sorr i just had to make the comment6 I see :D
: challenger playing graves XD a silver player could do that
> [{quoted}](name=Kokiri Star,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YyxhapGQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-03-19T17:35:47.549+0000) > > challenger playing graves XD a silver player could do that This is not my point dude. His whole Videos is about this idiotic videos. This is not fun, this is not helpful. This is sux and pathetic.
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: Then dont let them take it ?, if you are so far behind that you cant even compete for a baron or even attempt a steal, your game is over anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=Tits Out 4 Vayne,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ABYKQjhh,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-12T16:40:40.486+0000) > > Then dont let them take it ?, if you are so far behind that you cant even compete for a baron or even attempt a steal, your game is over anyway. Dude, I don't know when you did join the game. I mean the come back are real even if you're so so far behind :) Back in Season 3 especially , there was no a decided game. And that's what the game should be. Hmm , err that " Never give up. " thing. Even in the LCS come backs happen. But now this new Baron and 3 drakes of the 3 elements are killing it. :)
: They are there for a reason baron is mainly there to force an end to a game honestly as well 1. If the other team won with baron, chances are they were going to win anyway due to superior vision and objective control 2. If you had a solid lead and gave up a baron, you probobly deserved it due to poor lack of objective control and vision TL:DR - Objective & Vision control are keys to winning and SHOULD stay that way, i dont care if you are 25/0 katarina, if you cant control the game with that lead, you dont deserve to win.
> TL:DR - Objective &amp; Vision control are keys to winning and SHOULD stay that way, i dont care if you are 25/0 katarina, if you cant control the game with that lead, you dont deserve to win. Yes, definitely they are. But, weren't they at seasons 1-2-3-4? The game itself is about the objectives. I mean they just have to adjust the Baron empowered minions and the 3 same elements in a row drakes. Because as I mentioned, I didn't talk about when you are a head, I did talk about when you are behind and the enemy team is taking the Baron buff and drakes and you can't really do anything. It destroys your chance to come back. They have just to adjust it not to give it up.
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