Wex0r (EUW)
: It does seem extremely harsh this season. I dunno what they changed but loosing more LP than you gain from a win feels really bad especially in lower elo.
I think it's just because it's season start so their rank and mmr don't match yet and they need to balance out. After a short period of time either their mmr will rise up to match their rank or their rank will fall a little to be the same as their mmr and they can start properly trying to climb. I assume it's a bit harsher this season because if I remember correctly there was the opposite problem last season, with people gaining ranks too easily straight out of placements and unbalancing games because of it.
: they never take back ban decisions. NEVER. impossible
They don't take back deserved bans, such as ones where people behave badly then complain because they think they have a right to flame or troll. They can take back ban decisions if you can prove that you were wrongly banned, for example if you were banned because you were picked up for inting when it was actually the enemy team abusing a bug.
: ouch i dont know whether to take this as a joke or a threat but i need {{summoner:7}}ing and you need {{summoner:1}}ing
It was a threat and a promise. You {{champion:141}}'t escape me and I will {{summoner:14}} you until nothing is left but {{champion:22}}.
: Lets Bring Back The Puns
> everyone should know the alphabet its ez It would be so {{champion:81}} to make a certain pun there but you left it. I hope {{champion:43}} gets you and you have great {{champion:21}}. The earth will {{champion:68}} because you {{champion:497}}'t just do that. You will take this mistake to your {{champion:104}} and that will be your {{champion:4}}. If you want to entertain people you can probably stream it to {{champion:29}} when you get the punishment you deserve and your head is placed on a {{champion:555}}.
MK Tiger (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=KvmQNGIa,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2020-01-12T14:36:42.543+0000) > > Sure you had fun > But you ruined the game for other people > Play like you want all you want, but if you break the rules you'll get punished :) > > Shouldn't i be the one asking wtf is wrong with u I dont care about others, others with riot are shiit ... they dont deserve anything good. /fullmute all and they can cry or toxic idc bcs they dogs.
Yeah. Unfortunately for you, that mentality and ruining the game for others is against the rules, even if you personally are having fun while doing it.
: using skins applications
Applications that give you an advantage will get you banned. Applications like skin applications aren't against the rules but you could be banned if the system makes a mistake.
Ladonius (EUW)
: Season 10 rank system broken??? Won 7 matches and got SILVER
The system is based on your MMR as well as the number of wins you have. You did well in your placements and your MMR was silver last season so it put you back in silver. It's so games can be more balanced; if they placed you based only on the number of games that you won then a player that was the absolute bottom of iron could get platinum just from winning 8 or 9 placement matches, which would be wrong for obvious reasons and unfair for anyone that has to play with them.
: > [{quoted}](name=Semaka,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0KY9ZY2x,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-11T00:09:13.950+0000) > > Reportable yes, bannable no. It is your duty to make sure that you can actually play the game. If not, stop trying to play it until you get your connection fixed. > > Like in real life, bullies are bullying, but if you as a victim should just report them to the authorities. If a bully is bullying you verbally, and you retaliate and break his head with a rock, then you will face criminal charges. Same here. So if he is pointing a gun at me, i have no right to point a gun back at him? that seems quite unfair and one sided, Also yeah i agree it is my responsibility and it hasnt happened before this game dont i deserve the benefit of the doubt?
If someone is pointing a gun at you then you have the right to do what it takes to defend yourself, which would be to somehow make sure you aren't in danger of being physically harmed. You should then probably report it to the proper authorities that someone threatened to shoot you. If someone is pointing a gun at you and then someone manages to sneak up on them, disarm them and then tie them up then you do not then have any right to take the situation further. If someone poses no threat to you then you can't just shoot them in the head because they were threatening in the past. It is, at a basic level, no different in league. In league you are allowed to defend yourself, by muting them so they can't do a thing to you through chat, and then you should report it to the people that can deal with it, that being Riot, who you can send a report to as soon as the game ends. Retaliating unnecessarily on your own, whether that is with physical violence in the first case or chat in the second case, is not allowed when someone can cause no problems for you. Muting is defending yourself but doing the exact same thing and flaming someone else is retaliating.
: Riot be like: ''we can't know when someone is afk because of ragequit or dc'' but say one bad word and ur getting banned.
I don't personally think it should matter whether it's because of a ragequit or dc. Punishments shouldn't happen the first time, or maybe the first few times, just in case it is a dc. If it's happening consistently though, there should be more of a punishment for ragequitters and if people are consistently disconnecting from games they're having the same effect and should look at getting their internet fixed before trying to play online games.
Zeezilian (EUW)
: Why Yasuo is the most feeding champion ?
Contrary to popular belief, Yasuo does require some skill and practice to do well on. Yasuo looks cool so people play him and he can do insanely well in the right hands, which makes him popular but also heavily banned. The problem is that a lot of bad or new Yasuos aren't very good at him and can't pull off the flashy montage plays that brought them to the champion so they die instead.
: Riot can't quite grasp the "small steps" concept. Aatrox is at 44% Win Rate? Ok, make his Q cooldown lower by 2 seconds early game. Is he better now? No? Make his passive heal for more from minions. Still bad? Buff his E's range. Too good? Revert the last buff. Garen is literally destroying top lane? Ok, make his R deal magic damage. Still too good? Make his Q speed and duration lower. Too bad? Revert last nerf Repeat. With every champion in game. Every patch. I can't stand seeing 10 OUT OF 150 CHAMPIONS SLIGHTLY CHANGED IN ONE PATCH
I think the thing that's worse than them slightly changing champions is them massively changing champions. Aatrox is at 44% winrate? Ok, make his Q cooldown lower by 2 seconds and make his passive heal more from minions and buff his e range all at once. Too good? Revert it all and give an extra nerf on top for good measure.
: > [{quoted}](name=Thornhub,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=RNutWOXx,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-12-28T09:05:24.152+0000) > > I honestly can't understand where all the money goes to. This %%%%ing company does horseshit with its investments. Millions of dollars daily, where do they go!? INVEST IN BETTER MANAGEMENT AND STAFF FOR THE LOVE OF GODS. YOU ARE KILLING THE GAME! riot probably gets the least $ per player out of any game. The only thing they sell are skins, compared to any other p2win game, theres a big difference. So I wouldn't say thay have THAT much to invest.
It's true that Riot probably gets a smaller profit per player than other games but that's balanced out by them having one of the highest player counts in gaming. They might make £10 per person instead of £15 but if they've got double the players that still adds up to more.
: Senna is one of the reasons this game sucks
I think just all of the new champions tend to have some crazy thing that sets them apart from the rest of the champions in the game. We can't just have a standard marksman, we can have a marksman with 5 different weapons that all have different effects, qs and rs and the champion has literally no e. How about a marksman that is also a support? There can't just be a burst combo that you hit on the assassin, she has to have three different bonus effects on her q (including invisibility) and that q resets if she dashes and she can ult for potentially like half the map if she hits a wall. Qiyana isn't too different though to be fair because most assassins can do about a million things. Yuumi, do I even need to say more? Sylas stealing your ult and all of his abilities doing multiple things but that's fine because he's never played anyway. Past that Neeko is fairly normal in everything other than her transforming but she came right after "what if we make a support that is also an assassin?"
: i losted my pbe account and i cant find a way to recover it
Contact Riot support. I lost my PBE account and they were very helpful in getting it back.
Hananim (EUW)
: Too bad we didnt have players of your caliber at worlds to show us how a good player plays garen.
The point was, though, that he wasn't overly strong in worlds. He had a 43% winrate in pro games which isn't particularly impressive. I can't be bothered to try to find solo queue stats for that patch though so maybe their argument doesn't hold as much weight there.
: Actually, each of those skins have their own lore. Think of it as diffirent universes in a multiverse. Fun fact, While Dark Star and Odissey universes are diffirent, Odissey Rhaast has a goal of merging them into one!
Not all skins have their own lore though, including Victorious which this post is about.
mc4life (EUNE)
: Victorious Aatrox plot twist.
Skins aren't really meant to fit into the lore. That or Riot has some serious explaining to do with star guardians, mech skins, band skins, school skins, animal skins, cosmic skins, pulsefire and so on.
: But again if they are that impulsive they don’t need strong or even new champions, they will cave from a lack of BE regardless... so again the theory of riot releasing strong champions for money has no leg to stand on
The difference being that people are more likely to hop on a hype train and buy a champion when the champion is strong, new or limited; limited champions don't exist so the most impulsive purchases you're going to get are going to be from being strong and new. People are less likely to make a spur of the moment decision to buy something they don't really want that much if the thing they're buying is a weak champion that's existed for years, but a brand new champion that's completely busted is a different story.
M3GTRDragon (EUNE)
: What people think happens is the exact way you describe it. What really happens: 1 obnoxious guy is pingspamming, the other guy had an eye on a third guy and start harrasin him for it and refusing to mute the actual offender.
The general idea is that most of the bans to people that complain on the boards are justified. Whether it's a single ping or someone harrassing them the entire game, there's never a justification to retaliate like a lot of people that end up coming here do.
: But that doesn’t mean that lots of people buy new champions with riot points... and even fewer would buy something with real money because it’s considered strong. Those that would buy with riot points will do regardless of strengh, and those who don’t arent gonna buy him suddenly because he’s strong. That’s just bad logic that very few people will fall for. So purposefully releasing a champion strong because of sales doesn’t work... especially as champions who have came out as weak haven’t dipped in sales... the same people buy them regardless. The whole theory of riot making a champion strong for sales is ridiculous, because too few people buy based on strengh for that to make sense in doing it EDIT: you said it yourself, people who buy it with rp do so blindly, surely that means it wouldn’t matter how strong riot release it at
There's also the point that if someone buys with BE they'll eventually run out though. If it's not the brand new shiny champion that they buy with RP it might be a different champion later if they're feeling impatient.
CarryAll (EUNE)
: Very weird indeed. I think that not having the relevant news post clearly harms Riot cause.
It harms everyone. Players don't know what's going on or what they can get so they're less interested and Riot has less people invested in the event and, for the more selfish approach, less people interested in buying the pass.
: Atleast they are not talking from their permabanned account acting like albert einstein xD
What half of the posts say happened- "I was attacked all game and only defended myself from the evil flamer why was I banned?" What actually happened - _after a single ping from an ally saying their laner is missing_ "shut the %%%% up or I'm going to int"
MarijaCarry (EUNE)
: Ekko is one of the champions that makes me wanna quit the game, I though that he is supposed to be high-skill champion, but nowadays every silver can 1v9 games with him, cause of his stupid kit. For sure most overloaded kit besides Akali and Kai'sa.
Most of his kit isn't that bad in my opinion, he just has a massive damage ability (150% scaling!) that also happens to be able to double as an escape that refills his health bar. It'd be a good idea to just make him more punishing when he messes up ultimates than now when we have 50 seconds at max rank before cdr...
Father Tios (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Yraco,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=lIkViaWk,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-11T20:51:06.737+0000) > > Jworst: well now you get -15 lp > > That is a toxic attitude to have right at the start of a game. So you've never told anyone that you can't play a specific champion, when your main has been banned? As that's one way to understand what's being said there. > > Suggesting a surrender is fine within games but players have to go with the result of the vote, even if that isn't what they wanted. Again - if we banned everyone who ever said something along the lines of "why did you vote no", we'd ban almost everybody. >If someone says that their team should surrender and their team says to keep going, it is not okay for them to throw a tantrum like a five-year-old because someone decided not to give them their way. Where did he throw a tantrum..? > > 14 messages were devoted to complaining about the Sona. Admittedly, the Sona was not playing the game as she was supposed to either but, in those situations, everyone is supposed to play the game as usual and report the issue later. --- >Jworst: yea i guess sona taking my farm mid tilted me a bit Jworst: he banned my champ Jworst: then went to steal farm mid Jworst: lovely flame Jworst: thats why you ban your teammates champ ? Jworst: and thats why you steal farm in mid ? Yeah, how do you know that sona wasn't for example following him around and taking his cs? It is natural to get annoyed by things sometimes. He isn't insulting anyone, and there isn't a rule against complaining about something like that. Again. If we banned everyone who has ever complained (in a non-insulting manner) about a teammate, we'd ban everyone. Perhaps sona wasn't breaking the rules, and therefore shouldn't be reported? But was playing in a manner that would hurt the team. Who knows. Everyone knows that the punishment system doesn't catch if someone for example crashes your lane, in order to piss you off. Are you saying it would be unfair to say "could you like, not?" And then point out to your teammates that you might be a little tilted because of that? That's kind of an absurd stance to have.
Usually, if someone is doing something to piss you off they are going to keep doing it if they can see that it's working. Even if it's fair to say "could you like, not?", the best case is usually that they completely ignore the comment and the worst is that they start trying even harder because they think that it's working. My stance is that complaining, including in a non-insulting manner, won't make someone change their mind about trolling so save chat for friendly conversation and strategy. If someone is doing something against the rules then let them do that, mute them if they're tilting you through chat, and report them after the game for doing something against the rules. If you genuinely believe that reporting them in the client will not work then go and report them to Riot support directly, who can view the situation and do what they think is appropriate.
Father Tios (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Yraco,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=lIkViaWk,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-11T08:07:54.744+0000) > > Is it %%%%ed that someone can be banned for constantly complaining they will lose, opening mid and flaming teammates? Those things all seem like fairly reasonable things to be punished for. At no point did he flame. For the rest, it seems to be far from constant. I doubt that there are many players who have NEVER said anything relating to those lines. "Guys, lets just ff"
> Jworst: told ya to dodge Jworst: well now you get -15 lp That is a toxic attitude to have right at the start of a game. Suggesting a surrender is fine within games but players have to go with the result of the vote, even if that isn't what they wanted. If someone says that their team should surrender and their team says to keep going, it is not okay for them to throw a tantrum like a five-year-old because someone decided not to give them their way. 14 messages were devoted to complaining about the Sona. Admittedly, the Sona was not playing the game as she was supposed to either but, in those situations, everyone is supposed to play the game as usual and report the issue later.
: In this very unrealistic game, minionblock adds a "realistic" dimension
Then another question is, how much do we care about realism in a game that, as you say, is very unrealistic. In a game where a hamster with a blowgun can put a mushroom on the ground to kill a flying dragon that creates stars with its hands, does it matter whether or not people can bump into each other?
: Or buy PD, the only thing you have to do then is AA'ing enemy champions
That's fine for some champion pools (including some of OP's champions) but some people don't play auto-attack champions. I don't want to see my Heimer top, Rammus jungle, Lux mid and Leona support all build PD to deal with minion block.
Father Tios (EUNE)
: ***
Is it %%%%ed that someone can be banned for constantly complaining they will lose, opening mid and flaming teammates? Those things all seem like fairly reasonable things to be punished for.
G2 PYRUT (EUW)
: But they give the option for chat to be muted so how is it plausable to ban a flamer when they can be muted. But yet when i can tell im vs a smurf booster or boosted person they never get banned why because it was only 1 report. so allow flamers to live and be free i say
It is good advice to mute flamers but they should still be banned in my opinion. Some people do mute but the solution does not apply to everyone since there will always be people that refuse to mute and end up tilting when someone flames them. I also agree that people trolling games and players that have been boosted should be banned for the exact same reason that flamers should be banned, they are going against the terms of service and ruining games for others because of it.
: If you play tanks to climb then you never actually improve as a player, so eventually they will hit a wall and stagnate in elo, it really is simple as that, if you want to climb and get better you play mechanically demanding champions and get really good at them, you will be stuck in gold for a while, whereas the tanks will be plat and diamond, but once you get really good at your champions your mechanics can easily carry you higher than the tank players.
That sounds like the exact opposite of the truth. Flashy mechanics do not make a player good at the game; macro play such as map-awareness, decision-making and teamplay become more important the better you get. Mechanics can carry someone to a good rank but, to go even higher, macro play is also needed, which tanks are great at taking advantage of if you have decent teammates that can carry as long as you use your abilities as a tank to protect them and keep the enemies vulnerable. A Yasuo with great mechanics might get to plat or diamond but a tank with decent mechanics but great game knowledge can similarly get there or get even higher.
: If someone flames, just mute him. Flamers are just a made up problem because riot wants to rely on that to tell everybody that they are doing something to control the community.
I'd say that flamers are a very real problem because, while it is a good solution, muting is not something that can be scaled up for the entire community. Everyone _can_ mute toxic players but there will always be someone that refuses to mute and tilt or spend the entire game chatting back, some people even trolling when someone flames them.
G2 PYRUT (EUW)
: They are getting banned but the thing is they can get new level 30s for 3euro so untill riot stops banning flamers and ban trolls the game will stay this way
Why not ban both? Flamers and trolls both ruin games for people, it's just that flamers are much easier to deal with because making a program to read someone's mind to detect the intention behind poor play is incredibly difficult compared to reviewing solid evidence (chat logs).
: > [{quoted}](name=Sunney Drake,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=bmyfIJ9O,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-12-01T19:38:32.214+0000) > > You do realize that you are complaining about basic human nature right? > > _Q: Why are people so mean? > A: Because they are human._ It's a little more complicated than that.
I think it's a reasonable explanation. There will always be people that cause problems for seemingly no reason and all you can do is learn to cope with them. It's not even that hard in this case since it's possible to just mute them and not even see what they're saying.
: It's worse and worse
Preseason is often one of the most toxic times. Riot use preseason to bring in massive changes that mess with the balance of the game so people are more likely to be angry about that and some of the people that would spend their time flaming people in ranked move into other modes because there are no rewards to work towards. It'll probably be better in normals again once the season starts but until then, and if it doesn't become better again, mute is your best friend. If you need to then you should mute people at the slightest hint of toxicity and not unmute them again; if you know that someone was toxic then report them so that something might happen. Remember, sticks and stones may break your bones but chains and whips excite me.
Kalm an (EUW)
: Permaban for use of prohibited third-party software
You could've been hacked, especially if what Timethief49 said is correct. [The best thing to do is contact Riot support and explain that you think that someone else played on your account and got you banned.](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en) I had an issue with an account being hacked (but not banned) in the past and, after a brief explanation that I thought someone else had took my account and changed the password, the person answering my ticket said they found suspicious activity from somewhere and sorted everything out. Good luck!
dino0 (EUW)
: The oldest account should the one to keep the username simple, not this bullshit of the first one verify
I think it'd work better if it was the first to log in that got to keep it. If we went with the oldest account them someone that hasn't played a game since 2010 could force you to change.
: idk the criteria riot chose to chose who change it
Whoever logs in and changes it first is the one that changes. I logged into my main account then was told to swap the username, logged out, logged into my level 6 EuNE account, changed the name there then, when I logged back into this account, everything was fine.
Wazzi (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Basilix,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=UFwwzTTh,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-27T08:46:00.503+0000) > > Seriously why do I need to change my username now after I used the same since 2010! This is not ok. Yes I get that Riot are creating more games and that the Riot Account is for all of theyr games but why can´t we just keep the names that we had before? It worked in the LoR previews so why have it forcibly changed now. I logged in yesterday and there was nothing. I log in today and guess what. My name is gone. Atleast give people some time to confirm theyr names instead of just taking it away! This may seem like not that big of a deal but I really liked my name and having that taken away after over 9 years is a %%%% move. Not to mention the amounts of time I will have a failed log in attempt because of it. Yes all small problems but unnessessary ones. And one look on Reddit already proved I am not the only one annoyed at this! Same problem here own bick "Wazzi" since 2009 gor 10y and now after ages im forced to change it? Why because after ages RIOT made korea serwer, brasil, japan and someone create acc there and take faster my nick. What a bullsh1t. Noe i have to rebrand my "Wazzi" nick tl other. Maybe i have to write also to youtube and twitch to REBRAND my names also there? Still w8inh for reply my ticket... Thats sad that ppl who were first dont accept only creating RIOT ACC on same nick but have to renrand . W8ing for some explanations... Sry wring from phone...
Keep in mind that the summoner names stay the same, just the account name for when you log in changes. You could change your username to asiuofhjasoiuhfiouahsfisah and, while you'd have to enter that every time you log in, your name that everyone sees in-game would still be "Wazzi".
: So friends, if you're wondering "WHY IS MY USERNAME NOT UNIQUE?! IT CERTAINLY IS!". Well, it might be. BUT if you have a PBE account with the same username OR linked it with your actual account (which gives it the username) that might be the cause! If you have a PBE account that shares YOUR actual username! Change the PBE or the actual account! Whichever you wanna keep the username for. {{sticker:sg-kiko}} Have fun! Hope this helps. Edit: Accidentally typed PBU instead of PBE.
Also, you can just add PBE to the end of your actual username on the PBE so it's "YracoPBE" or whatever your name is. Easiest way to remember it.
: so like the jungler i that invaden the enemy jungler 2 times and died and typed " ok ill troll now" maby not be banned you say? since he didnt run it down to the nexus and insted just trolled played the rest of the game and was not toxic nor showing his feeding cystalclear
Basically. Chat logs are solid evidence so it's really easy to see when someone's being toxic. If someone soft ints without speaking they might not be banned because, even though they might have been intentionally making their team lose, it's hard to prove that they made a decision to play badly without any chat.
Breccius (EUW)
: because e chat hurts my emotions i cant play the game but feeding thru the roof is 100% acceptable play style. and u dont even have the fun of sending him to the other world
To get someone banned for chatting they can use a bot to detect words and phrases but to get someone banned for inting (assuming that person didn't say anything to indicate intent) they need a rioter to look at the game and decide whether the person was dying accidentally or on purpose. It's not that Riot see chat hurting people's feelings as more of a priority than feeding; there is a very easy solution to toxic chat but there is no easy way to read minds to detect the intention behind a death.
: that was ivern after his release
[They were commenting the stats from champion.gg on patch 9.23 (the patch we're on right now).](https://champion.gg/champion/Ivern/Jungle) It is true, however, that most sites place him at a 49% winrate, which isn't really that bad.
: Couldn't have said it better myself. Definitely up there in top 5 annoying champs. {{champion:81}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:53}}
I agree with Ez, Shaco and Pyke but I think I'm in the minority of people that doesn't mind Morg and Blitz too much. They've both got one main skillshot and if they screw it up in a fight they're mostly useless until it comes back up. Personally I think Mundo is worse because of his healing (even when affected by grievous wounds) and Veigar with his giant point-and-click ultimate.
Wex0r (EUW)
: Well i looked at your account and it wouldnt take much to push lux to 4th and bring vlad syndra or kaisa to 3. Also your still playing lux so thats not helping. But i already agreed it would be nice to customize but its not a priority while the client is barely able to function atm
The thing is that Vlad, Syndra, and Rakan are champions that I'm really not that interested in playing right now. I'm also really not playing Lux, I had a single game of her a week ago and the most recent game I played before that was two months ago with clash. The point was more general anyway and I used myself as an example since it is the account that I can find details for the easiest. I kind of get what you're saying about the client being broken to start with but fixing the client should be more of a priority than it is so that new features can be implemented without breaking everything.
Wex0r (EUW)
: Just play the new champion you like more problem solved
Did some quick research. A single game gives around 650 mastery points on average, assuming a 50% winrate. I took game duration stats from bronze to platinum because that accounts for 90% of the ranked playerbase so the average game takes around 29 minutes, disregarding champion select entirely. My most played champion has 70k mastery points so it would take around 3000 minutes, or 50 hours, of gameplay if I was starting a new champion to change a single icon on my profile, and Lux will still show as my second champion once I'm done with that. That's also not even saying that 70k is low compared to what some other people have on their most played champions.
: Argue all you want, that won't change the definition of the wording you used:) _Change(verb) to alter by substituting something else for, or by giving up for something else_. A **buff** is increasing the value of the existing stats, what you said was a change of stats.., by definition that means exchanging the existing stats for some other stats.., thus making your entire comment contradictive.
You still haven't given an example to why the initial comment is a contradiction though. > contradict verb deny the truth of (a statement) by asserting the opposite. Buffing is simply making something more powerful. The definition of change does not have to mean sacrificing something but if you want to believe that's what it means then go ahead. All I'm asking for is an example that proves that it is absolutely not true that an item can become stronger overall by sacrificing one aspect and improving another. Why do you think it is true that the new support items cannot get stronger by changing some numbers or changing the stats that are given? Is there no way that it is beneficial to, for example, change some offensive stats into cooldown reduction?
: Except that's not a stat change, that's simply a buff to the existing stats. Still don't see the contradiction?
I would argue that buffs are stat changes though because most buffs are simply changes to the numerical values of things, so increasing how much of a stat an item gives or improving the damage/scaling of an ability. Even if we assume that they change an item by adding a new stat, say 10% cdr, then that would be a stat change that increases the strength, therefore not a contradiction. Could you give an example of how it would be a contradiction to make something stronger by changing the stats it has?
: Items are a bit to weak but fine with some stat changes? Contradiction is strong in you paddawan!
I don't see the contradiction. The items are weak right now but if the stats were changed to be stronger then they wouldn't be too weak. How is it a contradiction that weak things can be stronger with the correct buffs?
: She has twice Ornn's skins. Also, it's a dumb champion that shouldn't be promoted by any means and therefore one skin is already too much.
Kindred also received their last skin more than a year before Ornn's last skin. Anyway, every champion should get skins unless Riot are working on a large VU or VGU.
Drupu (EUNE)
: No man you don't get it he's doing his best, don't be toxic :( You're ruining the community with that behavior, he is just an innocent player trying to train his skills in an untraditional way.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but clearly other people think you aren't.
Show more

Yraco

Level 261 (EUW)
Lifetime Upvotes
Create a Discussion