: START BALANCING RANKED AND PVP MATCHMAKING IN GENERAL
Consistently bad players need to play through a gulag of normals before they can join ranked. every 5 games, the system checks how bad you're doing. If you have < 0.5 kda and > 10 deaths for at least 3 out of the 5 games, require the next 10 games to be normals. Problem vastly improved.
Drupu (EUNE)
: No man you don't get it he's doing his best, don't be toxic :( You're ruining the community with that behavior, he is just an innocent player trying to train his skills in an untraditional way.
> [{quoted}](name=Drupu,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VndmfE5E,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-11-12T14:57:08.345+0000) > > No man you don't get it he's doing his best, don't be toxic :( You're ruining the community with that behavior, he is just an innocent player trying to train his skills in an untraditional way. Get the f*** outta here
: When will this diamond chaos will be over?
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Hahrimazd (EUW)
: I just don't care anymore, any tips?
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: RIOT PLS, finally pay normal money to your programmers, what the hell with ur game, boyz?
Happens when making money takes precedence over creating a quality product
Mali Zvrk (EUW)
: A compensation for this damn thing
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: League crashing randomly
Yep, 3 months with these issues, feelsbadman. Don't know how Riot can release a patch without testing it first to see if it works,
: So many players obsessed with griefing,
1. /Fullmute all from the beginning of the game, every game. Don't say anything in lobby either, unless you know you will dodge and want to give the instalock disco Nunu a piece of your mind. 2. Auto dodge troll picks like Teemo/Kayle/Shaco top etc, they are garbage players that enjoy trolling and you can't convince them otherwise. 3. Use a third party service like blitz.gg or OP.gg to look up your teammates, to see whether they are first picking their champ or are playing to win. 4. Don't talk in the chat. Not even glhf. Unless you're like me and prefer to flame even if it ends up losing you some games. 5. Accept that unless you're smurfing hard the best winrate you will get is like 60-70%. which means that you win 6 and lose 4. Think of it like a marathon, not a race. 6. Don't play on weekends past Friday evening. Especially Sundays. 7. If you are especially hardstuck, make a new smurf and level it up.
: Odyssey Contest Entry: 'Yasuo and the NO U.'
Masantha (EUW)
: Odyssey Contest Non-entry: "Time for a Tea Break"
Please write more, I love this! For'tune ahaha I'm dying. You should have named Kayn Kay'n though.
: Odyssey Contest Entry: "Captains Yasuo's haiku logs"
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: >And by your logic, my full crit Katarina isn't actually bannable. Because it's not trolling, its merely 'Not-meta'. ;) it isn't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU28l2C8iBU try again
You already countered yourself by your logic: "wether you disagree or not will make the difference on wether you will get banned over something like this or not ;)" Whether crit Kat works or not is not my discussion. ;)
: Awful idea. KDA means nothing in the grand scheme. You could have a jungler that's failing miserably at ganking and it 1/9, but the objective control is on point. You could have a support which is dying a lot, but setting up amazing plays in extended fights they don't get the assists for, or the vision control is so good that the rest of your team can make up for the deaths. KDA means nothing. I've been on teams with scores of 8/35 and still won the game because of superior objective control. The system can pick up when it's intentional already. Adding numbers without context will only break it.
Yeah sure, but those comebacks happen in maybe 1 of 10 games, even then its ALWAYS 40+ minutes into the game.
: >So you mean to tell me that in a 19/41 game, where you have 11 of the 19 kills, and it is minute 28, and you decide sell all your items and build full crit Katarina because you're tired of people not giving a s**t about winning; do you believe that that makes you as much of a troll as the 0/11 inting toplaner who flames you in all chat for 'taking his kills' while he builds full AP zed? yes wether you disagree or not will make the difference on wether you will get banned over something like this or not ;) >I suggested a solution. maybe i've missed it but apart from the "Tighten up your algorithms please." bit, i can't see any solution being presented. just a whole lot of complaining >Most likely every troll game will have to be reviewed by a Rioter individually, excuse you? the most recent data i can find with a fast google search showed that [about 100 million players](https://dotesports.com/league-of-legends/news/league-of-legends-number-of-players-14488) played the game every month back in 2016 do you know how many rioters it would take to accomodate all of those players reports? {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} no >but in lieu of that, how about item paths, and build choices? aka you want non meta builds and strats to be punishable? lol
Which is why I presented an automated system based on KDA and death count. I don't care about Jhin top as a pick, but i do care that even though our team asks for the guy to play something else, he goes Jhin ayway and goes 3/15 by endgame. I still maintain that dying 10 or 15+ times in a game with KDA < 1 is a pretty good indicator. And by your logic, my full crit Katarina isn't actually bannable. Because it's not trolling, its merely 'Not-meta'. ;)
: example? sure! you're a silver player going Teemo against Darius you don't know what the definition of "play safe" implies the enemy Rengar jungle is babysitting his duo as if they're newlyweds for the entirety of the game your own jungler is ignoring top lane because he doesn't like Teemo players by default fair enough for you?
Not knowing what 'play safe' implies = Silver Elo? Not for long xD. And in Gold we expect a little more game knowledge from players. But thanks for your example, I suppose it COULD happen...
: >I would hardly call it 'in favour of trolling' if I am taking the time to write a post about it. *"it also proves that despite your post's line of thought you're still in favour of trolling if the opportunity presents itself and if "everyone else" is doing it too"* and you say **I** am distorting truth {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} >Trolling because a game is 25/4 at the 15 minute mark when I am 1/1/0 and trolling because 'idc riven banned my champ so I go int' are 2 different things. no they are not trolling is still asshat behaviour, regardless of **why** you do it and no ammount of mental gymnastics on your part will change how reality works >just to prove a point that 'everyone trolls sometimes' doesn't negate the fact that it happens and more needs to be done about it. such as?
1. So you mean to tell me that in a 19/41 game, where you have 11 of the 19 kills, and it is minute 28, and you decide sell all your items and build full crit Katarina because you're tired of people not giving a s**t about winning; do you believe that that makes you as much of a troll as the 0/11 inting toplaner who flames you in all chat for 'taking his kills' while he builds full AP zed? 2. I suggested a solution. Clearly going only by KDA < 1 and death count > 10 or 15 is not amenable to everyone, although it was the best imo. 3. Most likely every troll game will have to be reviewed by a Rioter individually, but in lieu of that, how about item paths, and build choices? People that build AP items on champs with no AP scalings, troll picks like Zed Support or Jhin top, not taking smite when you're the jungler. Burning flash in the base, ulting for no reason. Afk farming for the entire game. Having a history of bad KDA and high death count.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: Intentional feeding isnt about score but about intention. You can go 0:20 and still not intentionallt feed.
What? I get that that is hyperbole but give me ONE game where someone went 0/20 who WASNT intentionally feeding. That simply doesn't happen, to my knowledge, unless you're support, and even then I would question why you were dying so often.
: >Did you actually go almost 70 games in my match history to find that? yes. problem? >The braum game if you check, was 3/31 at 21 min. Hardly a game that was winnable, so i figured I'd troll with everyone else, which doesn't even disprove my point. it however proves that you're a hypocrite :) it also proves that despite your post's line of thought you're still in favour of trolling if the opportunity presents itself and if "everyone else" is doing it too >70 Games. You know how much on average someone plays lol? That's the equivalent of about 2 months of gameplay. Nice trolling dude. >Oh my goodness. I counted and its actually 125 games ago. WOW. i wouldn't matter if they were 2000 games your post is about how riot should equate negative kda with inting so going by your logic, you are an inter too, albeit not always. case in point >In answer to your question, yes Riot should suspect me of inting in those games, even so. then i guess there's no problem that you have with my investigation, yes?:)
I would hardly call it 'in favour of trolling' if I am taking the time to write a post about it. Trolling because a game is 25/4 at the 15 minute mark when I am 1/1/0 and trolling because 'idc riven banned my champ so I go int' are 2 different things. Just because you have had to go 125 games in my match history just to prove a point that 'everyone trolls sometimes' doesn't negate the fact that it happens and more needs to be done about it.
: >Stop distorting the truth thanks. I guess you're one of those trolls. i'm sorry you're in denial but it's your history. you should accept it! :) > Link not showing whatever check op.gg. Still maintain a 3.2 KDA average. your average kda doesn't disprove the fact that you have those scores on occasion and by your own brilliant logic should be suspected of inting by riot {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} tbh i'd like it if you explained away your braum game and that last one. ty :) >I should definitely have been reported for those games btw because I was borderline trolling. No excuses. i like how you keep editing your reply and backpeddling every minute or so. i've had to edit this reply like 5 times or so so that it's in order with your own =))
1. Did you actually go almost 70 games in my match history to find that? The braum game if you check, was 3/31 at 21 min. Hardly a game that was winnable, so i figured I'd troll with everyone else, which doesn't even disprove my point. 2. 70 Games. You know how much on average someone plays lol? That's the equivalent of about 2 months of gameplay. Nice trolling dude. 3. Oh my goodness. I counted and its actually 125 games ago. WOW. 4. In answer to your question, yes Riot should suspect me of inting in those games, even so.
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: >I said having a kda below 1 with an abnormally high death count. Do you see me dying 10 and 15 times in my games? Why 10? Why not 9? why not 8? And so goes on. Just picking random number doesn't make idea any better. Also, it is not that rare (met this type of player twice, considering that I almost never meet intentional feeders) that first feeded enemy few kills and then went afk farming to cheat a system (one was even boasting about that on chat). So being 0/8 is the same intentional feeder as being 0/10. So why then the system should not mark you? Just because you are you? >As for amending the mistakes that one makes in a game, it's really very simple. Build defensively and stop fighting. Everything makes decisions based on what they think is correct in this situation. You have no special mind power to know if they decision, when being made, is correct or not. The difference between "outplayed" and "feeded" is only if the thing that you are planning will work or not. Therefore punishing players like this (getting on the list potential intentional feeders is a penalty) makes no sense.
With that argument, why not 15 deaths? why not 24? It has to start somewhere. I chose 9+ because I thought that was reasonable, someone else can find a different number perhaps. If I go 0/10/1, the system should definitely mark me. It would be a wake up call to start playing better or play more safe.
: >Scores like 0/9/1, 2/10/4, 1/16/9, 7/24/4 etc should be automatically put on the int-feeding watchlist. i agree, [you F-ing hypocrite](https://imgur.com/a/a5fLGpJ) {{sticker:sg-ezreal}} >Do you see me dying 10 and 15 times in my games? Absolutely not. i saw quite a few of those while scrolling down but they didn't quite fit your kda&lt;1 argument if you want i can make a list about those too ;)
This is my actual gameplay: [](http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=kindare) . Link not showing whatever check op.gg. Still maintain a 3.2 KDA average. Stop distorting the truth thanks. I guess you're one of those trolls. I should definitely have been reported for those games btw because I was borderline trolling. No excuses.
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: Having bad KDA can have many reasons, not only trolling or intentionally feeding. Many times after one player makes mistake he tries hard to amending for it, and therefore making more and more wrong plays. Things like this happens. If for KDA below one people would be put on the int-feeding watchlist, wouldn't you be one of the first on her? Seeing as you also have games with KDA way below 1 (with some even below 0.5). People should be judged based on their behaviour in game (I'm not talking about chat behaviour), not simple by their KDA.
I said having a kda below 1 with **an abnormally high death count**. Do you see me dying 10 and 15 times in my games? Absolutely not. On both of my mains I average 3.2 KDA with a positive winrate because I actually try to win without dying. As for amending the mistakes that one makes in a game, it's really very simple. Build defensively and stop fighting.
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