: I don't really mind someone flaming, I'll just mute. But someone playing un-sportsman-like bad, now that gets me.
I got chat restricted just now,too and I don't like how lately I've been getting shit from my team,when some of them even THROW THE %%%%ING GAME.I'm usually calm and collected (i hate them,but I try not to express it in-game) and I try to give them tips how to do better,yet what I get is shut up,shit bla bla bla.It's honestly frustrating.When I feel like I'm in my worst condition I usually try to mute my team and focus on the game solely,but sometimes I just %%%% up one thing and the flame sips like it's late game and i'm not gonna show up for 1 hour.It's honestly frustrating to hear complains all the time of how bad are you.I want to respect people,but sometimes I don't get any respect,no matter how hard I try
SiffLort (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=bgfighter21,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7XRHHpk7,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-07-15T17:03:14.105+0000) > > I complained about everything else? Hah,nice thing coming from eune player,who is probably toxic Nice thing coming from a silver 2 player. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
> [{quoted}](name=SiffLort,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7XRHHpk7,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-07-15T17:06:04.198+0000) > > Nice thing coming from a silver 2 player. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} Thanks,still not reading my posts,still not getting the main point. Thanks god,someone doesn't have a brain and does empty arguments.May flamers be with you.Shit on my division as much as you want,it doesn't mean anything in front of toxicity.Toxicity is a problem which expands in lower divisions,but it has no matter with divisions.You can be bronze and flame as much as diamond or challenger and the opposite.I don't know why you are giving me such answers,when what I want to say is completely different.It's about the community.But we gotta flame,right?We can't talk like normal humans,right? Of course,we can,but why?He is shit,right? So why talk like normal humans,right?We are always gonna see each other,so we gotta shit on him,right?
GLurch (EUW)
: >Ego players get things going their way,while people who have bad time,but are still trying get actually punished? Could you provide us with more information, like examples? --- Just mute someone when he's harassing you. You don't need to start the game with /mute all. As soon as someone starts flaming, mute and ignore them. They won't provide much useful information anyways, and you still have pings. After the game, you can report them.
> [{quoted}](name=GLurch,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7XRHHpk7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-15T12:38:33.410+0000) > > Could you provide us with more information, like examples? > --- > Just mute someone when he's harassing you. You don't need to start the game with /mute all. As soon as someone starts flaming, mute and ignore them. They won't provide much useful information anyways, and you still have pings. After the game, you can report them. You want an example of a player that follows his ego?Haven't you seen one ever?He thinks,he is the best no matter what and always flames for every mistake,while when he does shit in late game,it doesn't matter that one guy %%%%ed up early,why try so hard.I'm tired of having to listen to FF at 5-10 minutes,cuz they think they are too good and don't have to carry such a ''bad'' team,while they aren't doing anything impressive or they aren't even in lane.It's also annoying listening to every single complain they do,when an engage isn't done properly and I see the massive wall of ''YOU ARE SHIT X (x being tanky champ).YOU HAVE ONE SIMPLE JOB YOU bla bla bla'' and whatever they come up with.This community is getting worser and worser.I was feeling better when I came back in 2014 in EUW.It was such a better server (had played 2 years on eune,so i was used with flamers).I really liked the atmosphere at that time.It felt really nice to play and even if I was not doing really good,the times when I was completely flamed out of the game were super rare.They were trying to win,but not by flaming.But when I look at it now,it's complete flame fest and there isn't a single game that doesn't go well to be nice.They are more rare than the flame ones when I came.It's honestly sad and I don't want to think of how it will be in the future.
SiffLort (EUNE)
: Looking at the title I wanted to agree but I've just checked that you're silver 2. Also, 5/14 Draven But hey, lets complain about everything but yourself.
> [{quoted}](name=SiffLort,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7XRHHpk7,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-07-15T14:33:54.843+0000) > > Looking at the title I wanted to agree but I've just checked that you're silver 2. > Also, 5/14 Draven > But hey, lets complain about everything but yourself. I complained about everything else? Hah,nice thing coming from eune player,who is probably toxic.I never tolerated toxicity and I never will.If a player does bad,you think you must flame him?What kind of a %%%%%% you must be? I'm not saying I'm the best one right?I know I did pretty bad,but this is a thing,I'm tolerating for seasons.It's not something I enjoy seeing.I've seen people getting flamed other than me.Do you think I joined them?No.Do I agree with them? Sometimes,yes.Do i try to help the player? YES,I want to help a player who has the desire to win,yet some love to troll and stuff.Also does rank has anything to do with the system being shit,huh? It's actually more important to be lower rank,because they are the most ignored.Negativity influences a lot of games and people actually get more wins than they should or lose more than they should.I don't know in which category I may fall,but it's probably the first one.I still don't want this to be a subject for people.You think everyone likes to play 1 in every 3-4 games 4 vs 5,because someone likes to flame and tilt someone off and then have lower chances to win?I've even gotten times when I was mid and made the enemy mid ragequit,because I made the enemy jungler overextend and die to me once.ONLY ONCE.And the jungler got shit the whole game afterwards,just because of that one thing that started the whole team to flame him.And even if he got better,he would still get shit.That happens with my teammates,too and even me.If I wanted to flame my team,I wouldn't even do the post here.It's better to be in gameplay,but it's here,because this needs to be adressed across the lower divisions.I still respect the players that do bad.Noone does perfect and some have some bad streaks and some good streaks.It's not necessary to flame anyone for anything.(Trolls are exceptions,because they ruin the game on purpose,but we are talking about straight inting)Sometimes my team got me off the edge,so I've gotten a different style as a player and I don't regret it.If I could pull it off with a normal team,that isn't tilted and doesn't flame,then it would be a strong weapon,but then everyone does random shit and doesn't care and still win.Idk,why I even explain myself so hard. Tl;dr if you think I flamed my team,then you better leave this post.
CmmDmmCD (EUW)
: Full dmg junglers that gank to take kills, with the whole team losing, (or any lane losing) they %%%%% about KDR because that is all they care about. And then spam the forums, about a bad team that only feeds. looking at you, full ad lee sin, full ad khazix, full ad graves, full attack speed xin, full attackspeed kindred.
> [{quoted}](name=CmmDmmCD,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7XRHHpk7,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-15T13:28:54.003+0000) > > Full dmg junglers that gank to take kills, with the whole team losing, (or any lane losing) they %%%%% about KDR because that is all they care about. > > And then spam the forums, about a bad team that only feeds. > > looking at you, full ad lee sin, full ad khazix, full ad graves, full attack speed xin, full attackspeed kindred. While as a kha main,I'm actually on that side,I usually sacrifice my farming for the good of a lane.I'm letting the lane to farm,but I'm getting any opportunity to gank for a kill.It usually works really good and it's very good.But sometimes I think of my team when we need something else,then I fail miserably :D .
Rioter Comments
: Current state of the game: Trash talking players.
I'm pretty sure people are just retarded.I'm playing from season 3 (first on eune and from s4 on euw).I can say 2 things:in 100 games I realised (in ranked) that toxicity does nothing (playing only ranked,so probably less than a month).But there is one thing I do.I flame back people.I always answer to them,because they deserve to be shitted on.I'm annoyed at them flaming and I'm using one of the general rules in life.Treat people like they treat the others.If riot thinks it's wrong,then go ahead and do shit to me,I don't give a fuck.Players deserve such attitude when they treat others like that.I'm positive otherwise.
Mcrozah (EUW)
: you're not the only one it gave me the "out of range" monitor issue...
For me it gave the input not supported error and the game was going fine otherwise -_- so I lost the game for a friend too :( .
Kirlin (EUW)
: If you are lazy to learn, why would you make others learn? I am support main and got SoloQ (no premades) from Gold 4 Season 6 all the way up to Diamond 5. I got my smurf from Bronze 2 to Platinum 5 by playing SoloQ support too. First of all, there is a huge difference between good and bad supports. If you hardly ever play the role (or jungle), you may not know how to set up vision or when to roam and leave your ADC alone. The biggest difference I saw as I went up the Leagues was when to leave your ADC alone and grouping with the jungler to set up vision and ganks. Despite being a good idea, you need to get at least these basics. When to roam, where and move with jungler (without ruining his farming time in your own jungle).
I haven't considered this,but I may try to. IT seems like I missed another important thing. Well,I would try sometime,when I pick a support which I feel comfortable at (meaning I need to kinda get comfortable first :D ) . Thanks for the tip,sadly I can't pin this comment to be the one on the front D: .
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: Maw is good but sometimes its not enough but its the best here Banshees and effects like it only block 1 sphere not all of them ! Ga is insta wasted wow catched someone for around 3k gold... Worth? No Qss stopped his ult dmg COMPLETELY and he usually couldnt kill targets after that as he needed to go melee and if dead nothing could happen anymore Syndra has range and cc , if dead her ult still casts and cant be stopped by an adc
Well,you have playing smarter and these tips counter her.How do you counter some annoying champs?Stay outside of their range even if it means being way more useless.
: A talk about the state Syndra is in at the moment.
So nobody sees the {{item:3156}} ? It lowers her burst.They can't hit balls?{{item:3102}} You say,no counter,no counter.Did you ever bought these items?ADC may need defensive items in some cases.Syndra is one of them.It may help you in other cases as well.But no,let's not think.Just complain.{{item:3814}} {{item:3026}} are also 2 not bad items.So no counterplay?Think again.Why did zed mains complain?Because people were smart enough to buy QSS.Why don't you try to buy one of these? (Especially Edge of night).
IRFodder (EUW)
: I have actually fell in love with the support role, Master 7 on leona in one day :3, currently trying out shen (I got you you top lane Karma, Akali will have to look elsewhere) although I hate leaving my adc alone to try to turn around a bad situation, also had a fun game in aram building full support nautilus (not today Master Yi, Sion, and no, your not getting away Nidalee, the Syndra was a bit of a problem though) me and the Twitch clicked that game, two man army I tell ya'. The only micro it lacks is the C. S. eliment, but, more than makes up for it in macro like you said. I think once you get the hang of reading team fights you gain a understanding and reading of what each player is trying to do as well as forsight in reading a step or two ahead and it also helps with meticulous use of your ablilities, I find myself less spammy and more purposeful whilst playing support and any mess up I instantly apologize for, and damn, the power you have to turn a team fight is borderline op. Although I have hit a wall at 3 actives :l any more and I just get confused xD I recommend anyone to just try for a day or two. You never know.
This is why I give this idea.I like your thinking,but people should find what they would like.Maybe some people would like the cc and defence of let's say Lulu,others would like the engage from Leona,third would like the one in the middle found in Braum.Others may like to try out let's say Zilean or go outside of the usual and try support Poppy.Some may like to do madlife hooks with thresh or just annoy the enemy team just by playing blitz.You never know what people would like.They would.But they should always (in my opinion) work on the macro aspect.Macro is not something that helps only for support.But the easiest way to learn it,is by playing support.
: Pepole should start making 4v4 customs without sup. Youll have so much fun youll actually not hate the game. The only way to move forward is to delete sup and have a 4v4 rift and rework all champs solely meant for sup into the other lanes or buff it to be as capable as any other lane with the same exp, gold and influence. I dont understand why they beat around the bush insta fix is right here.
This game has a strategy aspect and the biggest one being the support.If you remove it,it's like removing an aspect of the game that would make the game different.They are meant to be your saviors as well as carrying you without actually doing the best plays.They just provide you openings and should be able to make you view the map better (you need to work on it,too if you want support removed).
: The thing is that there are plenty of people in low elo who will try to argue against sight stone and will refuse to do it because they fully believe that a deathcap rush is better than a sightstone rush. And while we have focused on sight stone it doesn't end just there, or rather it doesn't begin with it. The exact same thing happens with the support starting items as well... for the people who don't like sight stone they will see support items in general a waste of time... So they start dorans ring instead because they don't understand that the lower stats aren't all that the support items are. Higher elo things like this shouldn't be an issue (still prob is but at least they understand the necessity of wards, or at least most of them do)... but there are too many people who will swear blind that forgoing support oriented items is the key to success for things like this to have any kind of affect (your plan is to try and get people more familiarized with the support role... but when people are familiarizing themselves with an extremely incorrect form of the role then the issue stays the same or even gets worse). It's also why riot can't incentivise going support... too many people have the wrong idea and likely won't change their opinion no matter what.
Ehm,I would love people to try.You know,in order to go 2 steps forward,you need to go one step backwards.I feel like it can help to a lot of players.If it does help to even 10,I would be happy.I don't want mass change.It will happen if the minority continues to spread the positivity.It's a slow and painful progress,which wants a lot of dedication.I think may consider becoming a support main,starting tomorrow.Hurting being super bad,but looking at my team and considering of a way to help them in order to become better myself.I would try to do at least 20 games only on support,but I will see what happens tomorrow.For now,I will go to sleep.Good night.
: > [{quoted}](name=UltrasLevskiRz,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ciQQ2LR6,comment-id=00080001,timestamp=2016-12-01T10:23:55.941+0000) > > One question. Who the fuck cares about ranked. (The answer is a person that cannot achieve anything in his life (real life) and go climb into an imaginary ladder - that noone in real world gives a fuck for). Every time someone calls me bronze player - i have so much laugh. To solve the issue with toxicity - Rito makes the game accouts - linked to the facebook accout of the person, so they cannot be anonymous. Because it is easy to curse and threaten people on the internet when you are infront of the pc without people knowing you. My point is that when somebody offend me and i find that he is near me (in my country) i can go and break his arms. I woudn't care about ranked too, but it's the only way to get the reward skin. I am an ARAM player myself. In ARAM you can often see silvers carrying diamonds. About your last sentence. You are just being a person who pretends to be some sort of GTA character. You are just a person behind a pc yourself. Don't try to convince me otherwise. You wil only lie to yourself. This paragraph is ment to help you. I am not going to discuss it any further.
> [{quoted}](name=DimitrisTheGreat,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ciQQ2LR6,comment-id=000800010000,timestamp=2016-12-01T11:59:26.941+0000) > > I woudn't care about ranked too, but it's the only way to get the reward skin. > I am an ARAM player myself. In ARAM you can often see silvers carrying diamonds. > > About your last sentence. You are just being a person who pretends to be some sort of GTA character. > You are just a person behind a pc yourself. Don't try to convince me otherwise. You wil only lie to yourself. > This paragraph is ment to help you. I am not going to discuss it any further. I'm sorry for doing that,but I will continue your discussing and explain the situation.Most people are retarded people knowing only muscles and being strong,so don't expect a lot of brain coming from bulgarians.I'm one myself and know this from experience.Probably he will curse me,because I offended him,while saying the truth.Well that's reality.
Materisna (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=DimitrisTheGreat,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ciQQ2LR6,comment-id=00080000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-01T13:47:14.808+0000) > > You are being too negative. > Try to relax and enjoy the variety of the game. You will see that no one trolls just to troll (unless it's some streamer). > People will only troll if you judge them by any means. > > MF support was often used against Zyra in Korea (even before the championship) > In Korea high challenger you can see LebLanc support (at least previous season). > In your eyes this is trolling. Well News Flash. It isn't > > Just accept the picks others make and try to do your best to win. > You are probably one of those people who like to be restricted. Well most people don't like restrictions. > Deal with it.{{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} True. Im a big fan of the "stupid stuff", i love playing jax/shaco support, maybe Morde adc, Most of the time i get flamed like "Omg troll, morde isnt adc", sometimes i get a bad score, but sometimes i get a good KDA and carry the game, I say that a guy is a troll only if he: 1. Flames and says in chat that hes gonna troll 2. Has "retarded" summoners (Heal/barrier , ghost/cleanse etc.) 3. He goes in the game and is 0/5 at 2 minutes 4. (rarely) When he has a Non-meta build like, Full AD morde, Ap Tristana or something like that
> [{quoted}](name=Materisna,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ciQQ2LR6,comment-id=000800000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-01T14:39:00.695+0000) > > True. Im a big fan of the "stupid stuff", i love playing jax/shaco support, maybe Morde adc, Most of the time i get flamed like "Omg troll, morde isnt adc", sometimes i get a bad score, but sometimes i get a good KDA and carry the game, > I say that a guy is a troll only if he: > 1. Flames and says in chat that hes gonna troll > 2. Has "retarded" summoners (Heal/barrier , ghost/cleanse etc.) > 3. He goes in the game and is 0/5 at 2 minutes > 4. (rarely) When he has a Non-meta build like, Full AD morde, Ap Tristana or something like that First why non-meta is a troll?This is what a restriction is.Second,I had a jax support once.I was actually curious and asked him as to how it works(it was a bit after the singed support guy's drama),he told me and we tried.The lane was quite nice,despite the fact we had a few unlucky moments.
: Actually {{champion:12}} is pretty close compaired with cc now.
You see,the difference between an Ali and Nautilus is that,Ali can save you,while Naut can pull you xD .Also don't forget Naut's passive can root everyone,while Ali's passive is a single target stun.Also Naut's E is a slow,Ali's E is heal.Plus Naut's ult is stun that can be applied to multiple persons or 1 target 100% (the others aren't 100% sure).It's quite better and way more safer.That's why,they are quite different.
: Still some of these champions actually are pretty high rated on the support list: * {{champion:25}}: Her build & skill rankings is a bit different tho. * {{champion:63}}: Probally the strongest support right now. * {{champion:161}} * {{champion:111}}
* {{champion:161}} His dmg is pretty nuts * {{champion:111}} His cc is better than anyone's .
: Probably not that many. But thread is doing well, the idea might catch on :) I wasn't really complaining anyway. If people take to this idea and supp queue times extend it'll be a good excuse to practice my {{champion:72}} jungle . {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
HAHAHA,well go for it.I thought the idea isn't gonna get liked,but maybe I did a good job.Seeing the comments for now,it's probably better than riot's.Soon we will understand.
: Does this mean (as a support main) my queue times are going to stop being hilariously short? :^)
You think 3/4th of the community will see this post? XDDDDD
: Before you do that you should add least make a tutorial about the basics. Trust me I known a lot of guys that not even realise just the simple things. What I also noticed is that people tend to have problem with supporting if they don't known how the champion works. If you are going to pick a support you never played before you aren't going to improve on it. I give an example as a support main. When I play champions I used to play my warding is actually a lot higher than I when I play a champion I don't play often. So to their defense they should play a champion they play in other roles that is capable of supporting. This allows them to learn the basics a lot faster and it will feel rewarding for them because it can be a challenge to make that same thing work with less resources available to u. Things like {{champion:63}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:48}}
It's not a bad idea.I don't mind it,as long as they learn.But learning new champs never hurts,does it? :)
: But a lot of people don't realise that... they don't understand that supports aren't useless nor do you need to shoot your team in the foot to enjoy... but an increase of these people trying to play support for any reason will make people lose games because of a lack of a support. So while people need to wise up ruining other people's games isn't the way to do it... they've got to start to learn how effective the support lane is by climbing in rank and experiencing good support players (because going back to the whole no sight stone thing if people see a lot of players do that then they are gonna do it as well... it's a vicious cycle that nobody wants). So if somebody doesn't know how to play support they should really avoid support in ranked... normals exist for a reason and nobody wants a support who doesn't understand support in their ranked games.
Since I know there are people that are KINDA smart in low elo,I decided to just say it like this.Yea,it will become quite a big failure in low division,but I think it can be quite good,if they just read what there is.They can even get their support item as a sightstone,so they have both and don't waste like 800-1300 gold or so.I think it's said quite good in the post,so they don't think that they should go FULL AP SHACO SUPPORT.Actually,I didn't say this in the post,but after the game I had a discussion with the enemy support(Sona) and she told me that she doesn't buy sightstone,because they have kills,they have control and noone kills them,so they don't need to have vision,so they don't need to buy sightstone.I actually saw a new way of thinking,but I prefer the insurance that people know that vision IS the bread and butter to league (or whatever was the saying).
Niryn (EUW)
: The best part is when they win one or two games and you start seeing that all over the place and get a few teams flaming the Sightstone-building supports for having "no dmg omg". :D It was a thing for a bit like a year ago (at least in bronze/silver where I belong), went away and lately it's coming back, haha!
I would prefer vision over damage (tho it kinda needs brain to use the vision,but still). Edit:Actually,this is only for bronze-low silver.Vision is almost useless,so damage is kinda better,but there is no learning from it,in my opinion.
Niryn (EUW)
: The best part is when they win one or two games and you start seeing that all over the place and get a few teams flaming the Sightstone-building supports for having "no dmg omg". :D It was a thing for a bit like a year ago (at least in bronze/silver where I belong), went away and lately it's coming back, haha!
I would prefer vision over damage (tho it kinda needs brain to use the vision,but still).
: Issue is that when people who don't want to or don't know how to play support start going down there that's when we get things like no sightstone full ap 'supports' which nobody wants in their games.
It's an issue,but as I said,people should be open to things.I said mostly for support,but it can be everything.Remember the case about the singed support player?Riot said they don't discourage such things,they even encourage them,but be mindful of your teammates.
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Vavroni (EUW)
: Mute Pings
One of the best suggestions I've ever seen.

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