: Hell no. The permaban is the last punishment, when all reform attempt failed (because of the player and only the player). Reform is meant to be done before the permaban.
But wouldnt be better have a yearly ban? People right now havbe no reason to change make another acc and lets go with it simple
: >So one of my ideas I've thought about is this: How about restricting chat for longer periods of time, rather than completely just locking people out of their accounts. You could even completely disable chat, or give players a permanent chat ban? I think this might be a more fair solution than the current very harsh system This was trialled and it failed miserably - these players tended to resort to trolling or inting instead for venting their frustrations. The reason toxicity and trolling / inting generally go hand in hand is because the issue is more due to a mindset than the tools you've been given - these sorts of people will find anyway they can to continue displaying their behavioural issues. Basically funneling them to one choice, by removing chat, actually made things worse.
How about your opinion in yearly bans? Would like to hear it if you dont mind of course.
: Ban Suggestions
I agree with this man, lonegr period bans (yearly bans) would ahve more impact in someone, how so? Right now you only have a way wich is make a new acc but if you lose taht one does it matter?, but getting the account you spend so much time on and have money in might give some people hope to change behaviour sincve there a chance to them to retrieve the account Permabans do nothing, yearly bans have the same effect but they can actually make some player rethink twice about talking garbage in chat. I have 1 perma and since there i change , but now i see why should i chnage ? Waht did i gain from becoming a good player, in my case i am honor 4-3 checkpoint (unfortunatley cant reach 5 before seaosn ends), but i dont see why i shoudl keep being a honorable player if theres no away to recover my acc
Çhip (EUW)
: Tilted players don't help you, run away the moment you're in trouble/doing a fight.. etc.. they have to build a system around that.
If you even behind start shit with someone who more ffed than you you deserve to be left alone to die
Yellowrsh (EUW)
: To much bots recently
Thing is people only play ranked and blind, nobody cares about training.
DELDE115 (EUW)
: If the account got permabanned as a result of being hacked, you will never get the account back. Getting an account hacked means that you did something to get it hacked. Downloading a 3rd party program (which Riot stated 3 years ago that that is no longer allowed) [You can technically use 3rd party programs BUT they operated in a gray area which can one day be approved by Riot and the next day go against Riot's Terms of Service]. Hacked accounts are never given back to the player because Riot doesn't kno who the real owner is. And that means: - The "owner" bought an account at lvl 30 - The hacker is pretending to be the owner - The owner gave their account to a rank boosting service, and the booster is now pretending to be the owner. - etc Riot cannot determine the origins of the account, who created it. _____ TL;DR you lost the acount forever. Riot will never give you the account, no matter the reason (money spent on the account is not a reason either).
Stop lying mate
Gdynam (EUW)
: What are my chances?
Go wrtie a ticket supp if they see it had some weird IP entrance something like from another country it's possible they give you aacc back
: The first step to rectifying toxicity entirely from this game.
Gona tell you it would roll out , forgot to ss,lost first blood, did not follow rotation took a few minions failed to do objectives All of that would be considered soft int and reports would fly everywhere
: Do you have a moment to talk about your Lord and Savior, the mute feature?
I prefer the poke the bear and get them banned feature which consists in taking the flaming person in a spiral of hate so you can repor them directly to riot and get them permaban that's my lord and savior
: Why do you use such a positive word for that?
In order no to offend any involving parties, since when i did refer someone and told he was suck up i got my coment deleted and a warning from boards, since you can really say somethign harsh without upseting some karens sherryls and snowflakes
: How do you specify a white knight?
Defends riot over any and all rational toughs :D
: What is wrong with LOL community??!!!
Riot policy made snowflake community just say something in chat get reported
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: Well, there goes another person not understanding what free speech is.
So I mentioned someone was a suck up to riot , Got isnta deleted
Canc3rMains (EUNE)
: I just went on your profile and checked if you reply with any normal opinion. Seems like you only like to write poor quality comments so I'll pass on your opinion
got my previous coment shut bcs i said someone white knighted to save riot Well there goes free speech
: Dear Riot games .
Riot needs a 1 vs 1 gamemode
: WTF CHAT RESTRICTION 25 GAMES FOR THIS??????
: player agression
Up to draft okay but then comes a daft %%%% try syndra jungle in ranked ? Really ive seen random stuff like jesus, i had people try out first tiem champs in ranked get stomped rage and quit ?
Bæka (EUW)
: The biggest problem is that those perma-muted people will start running it down mid (which is worse in my opinion)
Yeah like , lets assume most murders were commited by marcians, so prevently we shoudl shot every single of them ?
SonicAF (EUW)
: > You are to dense to understand anything except your own view of things. You refuse to understand what Hansiman writes. Not because it is unclear, but because it doesn't line up with your reality. Understanding a hypocritical utilitarian who is wrong in his assumptions of what utility is doesn't take a lot of brain matter. I've seen what he wrote here hundreds of times and took my time to think about it. We live in the same reality and it's not like his copypasta is a deep thought. It's transparent as hell. >Either people get permabanned because they **deserve it** They do not **deserve it**. It's not a matter of justice, punishment, deterrence or reforming. It's not even a matter of vengeance. It's a matter of fake utility. > or Riot perma mute them and they continue to harras people when they have a bad game by example intentionally feeding. You do not know that they would jump from one offense to a completely different one. It was not committed. > Either move on with your discussion or give up, you are wrong in the case you are doing now. Of course opposing the blatantly evil policy is wrong. > You are just repeating yourself over and over, while the clear majority does not agree with you > Just look at your downvotes both on the post and your comments. The clear majority of forum-dwellers does not agree. It's not representative of the playerbase. But even if it was true, appeal to majority would still be a logical fallacy. > and understands perfectly what Hansiman is writing. Understanding a hypocritical utilitarian who is wrong in his assumptions of what utility is doesn't take a lot of brain matter. I've seen what he wrote here hundreds of times and took my time to think about it. We live in the same reality and it's not like his copypasta is a deep thought. It's transparent as hell. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Mate i so agree with you how can someone be ppermaban bcs he might troll
SonicAF (EUW)
: Let's follow this through. Full logic chain. The OP asks whether mute is the proper punishment [which it obviously is, because it completely solves the issue of flaming]. You respond by saying that it didn't work[which it obviously did, flaming, the committed offense, is solved], because perma muted players[implying that it's all of them, which is an obvious lie] eventually run down mid when they rage and permanent ban is the appropriate punishment for that. Here is the logical leap. You imply that it somehow justifies punishing people for the more severe **theoretical** offense because they have a high risk of committing it. It doesn't. They **did not** run down mid, the offense was never committed, so you have no moral justification to punish them for it. Even if you have, like, 90% chance that they might do it based on your statistical data. I'm not sure how this isn't clear.
Youre so right but the thing riot emissaries dont liek to eb contradicted, okay its their way or the higway And they only have to say is, to back up the new system consists on that one experiment in NA and this stattement
Declined (EUNE)
: Not wanting to change your login name?
The oldest account should the one to keep the username simple, not this bullshit of the first one verify
: Blood Vladimir: go die, I think this one was a bit over the line.
It's was because someone wanted to dive a feed enemy or play a 2vs5
: How am I banned ????????
You did slip you said " go die" but that might be because he dived to dive a feed opponent and you said it in game , this chat is not 14 worthy but we'll riot gives no %%%%s about you
Fatla771 (EUNE)
: Ban
Mate you didnt feed you trolled, 2 diferents things
: > [{quoted}](name=dino0,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=biEyHBjk,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-18T18:35:52.783+0000) > > Final thoughts: I am ona crusade to get has many people ban has possible ;) the why j paly the game is to report them at the end of if it's real and to use the riot support. > This is my holy mission from a few months back get everyone banned > > Ask The Goat One was homophobic in game got him perma ,how i know I checked is status in op GG got a guy 13 days without playing now, let's see if it was 2 week vacations on perma Ok, if nothing else, you kinda lasted more than others. Usually all you need is answering one time to someone who (only) appear to be a reasonable player, and then they will answer by going completely ape with crazy stuff. You took slightly more time than that. Kudos i guess, and good luck with your "holy mission"...! {{sticker:vlad-salute}}
Welp i got a moderators reprot over naming and sahaming a banned account noice:D Looks like the guy i was checking only got a 12 days suspenision
: > [{quoted}](name=dino0,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=biEyHBjk,comment-id=00040002,timestamp=2019-11-18T18:06:03.344+0000) > > Riot should implement I don't wanna play with this person again ( this would avoid anyfurther and situation that might occur in game ) This would be the fastest way to kill the game actually. Give it a week or two, and even playing one single game would become an impossible proportion because anyone would have banned anyone else for the sake of one lost game.
Do i have to ctach some idiots time and time again ?
: > [{quoted}](name=dino0,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=biEyHBjk,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-18T18:35:52.783+0000) > > Final thoughts: I am ona crusade to get has many people ban has possible ;) the why j paly the game is to report them at the end of if it's real and to use the riot support. > This is my holy mission from a few months back get everyone banned > > Ask The Goat One was homophobic in game got him perma ,how i know I checked is status in op GG got a guy 13 days without playing now, let's see if it was 2 week vacations on perma Ok, if nothing else, you kinda lasted more than others. Usually all you need is answering one time to someone who (only) appear to be a reasonable player, and then they will answer by going completely ape with crazy stuff. You took slightly more time than that. Kudos i guess, and good luck with your "holy mission"...! {{sticker:vlad-salute}}
Welp i got a moderators reprot over naming and sahaming a banned account noice:D
: > [{quoted}](name=dino0,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=biEyHBjk,comment-id=00040002,timestamp=2019-11-18T18:06:03.344+0000) > > Yep I completely agree people who used money on a game at least want not to be matched with a bunch of 12 years old who don't know how to play, > > Riot should implement I don't wanna play with this person again ( this would avoid anyfurther and situation that might occur in game ) Indeed, I have commented on a couple of things on the league of legends board since yesterday and it seems people want to argue rather that discuss things rationally.
2 things you can't say in boards , because the dislike squad appears is some rehabilitation system for banned players , and appeal a bann
: racist & toxic people can get away easy with the new support system!
You can't use the new system I amde a special requested and it went perfectly
: Maybe you meant: "**i really dont know if i shoulod trust my money to riot and try not to flame and get banned again**" Which is a different thing that simply "trust money ro riot". RioT is not going to steal your money, but you can definetely "lose" the stuff you gave them money for by getting banned for flaming again. Which is something that you may end up doing, not RioT.
Mate to me league has been for a long time a favourite game of my , to play the time played and waste the money I waste, was it to hard for them to give a preseason 2 player another chance ? I've been here longer than some yet was my supp to riot went unoticed, yeah I loved the 7-8 years of lol and there was a time were I loved riot games not anymore. They are to me at the same level has bethesda- going down the drain Sorry for my rant,but I do think permaban over flame is kinda of overkill
: Not entirely sure if I agree with that. Anyone knows the term whale? A whale is someone who consistently spends lots of money on micro transactions, usually on f2p mobile games for the most part. Indie developers cater to them so they keep giving them money. Many developers only need to have a few whales play their game to be quite successful. As an after thought, I suppose people who take this game seriously when playing are also more likely to spend money on it, the downside is also that they are more likely to flame. I have not looked it up, but it seems logical.
Yep I completely agree people who used money on a game at least want not to be matched with a bunch of 12 years old who don't know how to play, Riot should implement I don't wanna play with this person again ( this would avoid anyfurther and situation that might occur in game )
: Hey, Id recommend you do not. Not because I hold ill will against riot, but because in the end it is a waste of money. I myself have spent a hell load on this game. These days you can earn chests etc. This is just my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt.
Understand your point, but I never get cool stuff In chest not to say, I've been using championship tokens and saving up be to get me a" okay 'roster of champions so I can't save up for the orbs
: > [{quoted}](name=dino0,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=biEyHBjk,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-18T08:36:26.169+0000) > > Yeah but does it really matter tho, it's a online virtual chat nobody gives frick I do believe people who go online should do so with a thick skin but what you should really ask yourself is, what kind of person are you if you tell people to go and die or get cancer. I myself have insulted people pretty hefty but I have never told someone to die and I do distinguish between the two.
I never asked for someone to die, at a point that I once said to a guy, I hoped when you die in many years from now you got to hell
CarryAll (EUNE)
: Good. It seems the objective of this thread was to help you decide on whether to continue paying to Riot. It appears you now have a solid decision.
Seems like no also vote wise people don't trust riot
Kashiro (EUNE)
: You ask total strangers about YOUR stance on supporting a company that banned you. If our opinion matters and can influence you spending money why can't you influence others via chat?
The thing is I asked for those opinions , I want to know what you guys think about this,
: > [{quoted}](name=dino0,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=biEyHBjk,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-17T23:13:56.393+0000) > > No one knows who is behind the account it's not like there's a photo of you, no one can target you personally ,which is why many times we used abstract profanities since when notingto base off , also if people can even handle virtual thoughts imagine going out to the world , the world is a freaking cold place no one gives a f about you they just wait chance and take you down has soon has possible. There is a mute button for a reason. Then again telling people to go and die, get cancer, drink bleach, etc. is the palest of the pale and should not be tolerated.
Yeah but does it really matter tho, it's a online virtual chat nobody gives frick
Hansiman (EUW)
: Your perception of the world is much more pessimistic than mine. I'm a nice person to those around me, and those around me are nice to me. If you greet the world with hatred, that's how the world is going to greet you.
Mate, I am generally a great guy ,but there are some days after work that I get home stressed play some games and then guess what my team is either under 12 year old or they wall mighty yasuo mains who keep spamming 1vs 1 me scrub in chat Jesus , I once toke upon that offer crushed him 5 times all those 5 times I used supp.
CarryAll (EUNE)
: My personal point of view is that when I buy RP from Riot I essentially donate money to a company which makes a good game. I don't care about all these cosmetics I get from these RP. (I guess you don't identify with my approach.) Anyway, this is my advice: If you still feel alienated towards the game since your recent ban then stop paying for it as long as this feeling persists. It is a matter of feeling and shouldn't be bothered with whether it is logically justified. If you no longer feel so, go ahead and continue supporting the company. Regardless, I suggest to do your best to never be negative to other players who essentially share the same hobby with you. The more of us who adhere to this approach, the more enjoyable this game becomes for all of us.
I don't actually I waste saround 800 euros on this game, why BCS I liked showing skins and being able to get all this new special effects and so, I still play the game been playing for 9 years now, but. The truth is don't trust riot why, imagine j get banned for some stupid reason, get Gona take my money again and block me out from the content I paid for.
Hansiman (EUW)
: You have no idea how harmful words can actually be,.
No one knows who is behind the account it's not like there's a photo of you, no one can target you personally ,which is why many times we used abstract profanities since when notingto base off , also if people can even handle virtual thoughts imagine going out to the world , the world is a freaking cold place no one gives a f about you they just wait chance and take you down has soon has possible.
Hansiman (EUW)
: For verbal toxicity? How many warnings should a person get? Generally they're issued three penalties before a permaban is issued. If you've ignored 3 warnings, and just continue with the same behavior, I don't see why Riot should give you more chances.
Yah but cmon you wrote those things so they are hurtfull and ? i i tell a guy to kill himself he aint gona kill himself okay its not like words on a screen are so harmfull
Hansiman (EUW)
: > in a competitive game like lol its normal to peopel to get mad at othrs Sure, but most people are actually perfectly capable of not acting out. We have control over our emotions. --- > simple also it aint profitable to ban paying players. The opposite is true. Toxicity is one of the main reasons people quit a game. These customers that leave will spend their money elsewhere, and they'll be in a greater number than the few toxic players that might leave the game since they're unwanted. Banning toxic players is good for business, because it makes others more likely to stay and spend money.
I understand what you mean but i do think the permaban is uncalled for these type os situations, it should 6moths 1 year maximum,
koleżanka (EUNE)
: I've never seen a single competitive game where a player would walk up to another and start flaming him, wasting time "expressing his frustration" instead of playing the actual match. You can relieve Your itch afterwards, preferably on a concrete wall.
Have you ever played Counter strike, dota, battlefield also seen in smite
: Do you agree with Riot's punishment for you? Do you like what they do aside from that. Do you want them to keep going? May be your answers to these questions can help you
Of course not, in a competitive game like lol its normal to peopel to get mad at othrs mistake when those mistakes might cost a lost, simple also it aint profitable to ban paying players.
Ehhhh (EUW)
: If it's your fault you got banned, and you admit and understand why you got banned, why would you lose trust? If you want skins, buy them. No one's stopping you. Just know that if you flame and get banned, you knew what would happen
I actaully didnt read my reform card form the 14 day ban so i didnt knew another one would mean perma.
Rioter Comments
: Toxicity is fine. Anyone who disagrees is simply wrong.
I know right, riot is over zealous with something wich is normal in competitive games, but i do have to note since my previous ban, ive yurned into a snowflake the minimal think wich i consider has flaming i report it, guy just compared me with an ape, not bad at all honestly i was indidiferent to it but i still reported him, why because the best way to really take a hit is with reports, flaming in game does nothing yet if they rage vs youoh my god you can abuse it so many ways, when its obviously hard flame i directly talk to riot supp why bcs i knwo it can deal devastating hits /14 to perma if its really bad
: D3 in China and i find it hard to climb in plat elo EUW
Welp BCS our server is more competitive better players?
: When will this diamond chaos will be over?
Learn to abuse stupid picks, like kassa
Fineeh (EUNE)
: All your points are nice and neat, but is everyone seriously blind to the fact that getting even temporarily banned for flame is absolute dogshit? You can %%%%% in literally every single online game, but no, not in LoL where community is filled with people that literally deserve to be yelled at 24/7. Perma ban for insults, god. If people can't handle insults, they shouldn't play online. And if it really needs to be punished, than longer and longer chat-restriction is way to go. Not cutting people off (they already gave us money, so what). Just a little rant and huge experiment. Wanna see how many people will downvote this.
> [{quoted}](name=Fineeh,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=NxpATZN6,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-11-12T15:15:36.610+0000) > > All your points are nice and neat, but is everyone seriously blind to the fact that getting even temporarily banned for flame is absolute dogshit? You can %%%%% in literally every single online game, but no, not in LoL where community is filled with people that literally deserve to be yelled at 24/7. Perma ban for insults, god. If people can't handle insults, they shouldn't play online. And if it really needs to be punished, than longer and longer chat-restriction is way to go. Not cutting people off (they already gave us money, so what). Just a little rant and huge experiment. Wanna see how many people will downvote this. Mate have to agree, people in league are snowflakes wnyhting hurts their feeliings , they want a competitive kid friendly game? Impossible people when playing to be at abetter position they get pumped up and they sware simple
Dokitychamp (EUNE)
: Reporting should give you a + to your honor level!
Mate what the hell were you smoking, people would be random reproting everyone, in hopes of a valid for rewards
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