: 14 day suspension
well from ur description i feel like they deserved your comments lol but yeh jump off a cliff doesnt need a warning but I sure hope they got punished as well. you don't seem like a super toxic person, but that one comment is totally bannable so just watch out next time.
: What happened to you is quite rare, but it can be attributed to the time at which you are playing. Maybe there just aren't enough players? Besides buddy, it's not healthy to only know how to play one role, try switching it up and learning something else in normals or whatever, it will give you a better understanding of the game and a healthier mindset. It is most optimal to play your role 65% of the time and play your secondary the other 35 % ;) Otherwise you grow stale. Here is a little statistics for you: https://www.datallamalol.com/analysis5
Agreed. An additional comment to this; out of all roles, it's nice to know how to play adc to be able to support well. If you can't play a little adc as a support main, then you really do have a problem :)
: You don't need anything to play TFT, as opposed to LOL, where you need the leveling process in order to unlock new, free content. You do have a better mission system and daily claim system than LOL, where you get your arenas, emotes, and legends. LOL only gets missions during special events, TFT always has something up. Don't see what more you'd need.
Well yes, you need to unlock champions in order to play the game without getting too bored, chests and stuff to unlock things for game true but unlocking free stuff that make TFT enjoyable takes ages because you can't keep doing events. My point is, it feels like there's no "goal" in playing TFT especially now when ranked is over, but there's always a goal playing LoL. Maybe a fast amount of pts would not be a good idea, cuz I see your point and it might end up being too much since you do have the weekly events but something to keep you motivated to keep playing without getting bored too fast. Own leveling system or whatever, idk I really don't have the answer which is why I made this thread - all I'm saying is, I feel like it gets boring too fast when you've done all your events cause there's really no point after that
Rioter Comments
: Why should "I Agree"? EXCUSE ME?!
It takes a lot to get banned by leavebuster, if it even does. You agree to not intentionally afk in a game, which is fair enough. You may be 1 out of a 1000 who doesn't do it on purpose so... it's fine by me that there's a little warning. If something so small annoys you so much, then boy oh boy you have a lot to learn :P
: Seriously?
> [{quoted}](name=GrandAbomination,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=1mhKsb1w,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-26T20:02:51.272+0000) > > Game 1 > In-Game > GrandAbomination: nice try nerds > GrandAbomination: get off me %%%%ing featherd %%%got > GrandAbomination: eat shit whore 1) %%%%ing 2) %%%got 3) shit 4) whore > GrandAbomination: a team of dumb ult, press R to win > GrandAbomination: ults* Since when is pressing R to win forbidden? Apparently they have better tactics then your team, which isn't nessicarily your fault but that's how it is. Getting mad for using their ults to win is plain dumb, sorry to say. > Post-Game > GrandAbomination: go %%%% yourself, u didnt have to play with this team, and this useless kindred > GrandAbomination: %%%%ing drooling %%%gots, just pressing R together > 5) %%%% yourself 6) %%%%ing 7) %%%gots > 14 day suspension for this... I wasn't using any racial slurs or telling them to "%%%" > Also my last punishment was YEARS ago, haven't even gotten chat banned since then. Here, 7 reasons for your ban - do you really think you have to use racial slurs to get a ban? Like are you high, is this really a question? Are you really that stupid that you don't even see why they banned you? I'm totally speechless that you think you're the offer here, lol. Your cursing at your team for no legitimit reason, you're basically harrasing the sh*t out of them. You're being homophobic, whether they are actually gay or not - your words ARE homophobic. I like how you write in one of your replies "and I posted the whole chat logs" - Like this isn't enough, are you kidding me... I mean man, the stupidity. You really don't see it huh...
: Yeah im really sure the opponents were actually gay and got offended, of course they didn't try to tilt me on purpose in order to make me snap and report me later. None of the little angels playing this game would do somthing like this... riiiight?
whether they were gay or not, its a homophbic slur and is obviously not to okay. Period.
ipv (EUW)
: Why am i getting AFK warning 2 and 3 times per game without being disconnected?
: > [{quoted}](name=ipv,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=BFWkGxbj,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-25T23:13:49.403+0000) > > Honest question. > > EVERYONE on my team feeds every single game, and im 3/0.. 10/0 or 15/2 whatever. > While the rest of my team are ALL in negative kda? > > Also 90% of times Im most damage and I get S, rarely I see anyone on my team getting S. > > PS: This is out of thousands of games, literally. > > Why is that? Is this what riot calls balanced matchmaking? > (im not whinning Im just super curious to know why is this) > > thanks > > I have 370k points on zed on this account, but I got like 1mil points in all accounts on zed and like 4 million on akali. > I never play with anyone with more than 100k points. Read your own speech... "on all my accounts" shows that you smurf a lot. That is basically not allowed and despite that, it creates situations like yours. How is Riot supposed to rank you with proper teammates, if you constantly start a new account?
I disagree. I don't smurf and I find the balancing system weird. I would sometimes get matched with people level 200+ (I'm not even 30) that are obviously much moire skilled, or even smurfs for that matter. Why am I not getting matched with people my own level?
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: Okay, so what you are saying is exactly what i think, instead of blaming people and telling them how bad they are, you can give them some advice what to do next time and what they can improve, i try to do this all the time but i dont see many others do it, which is sad.
Hi, so I'm new and sometimes I have the opposite problem. It's just as frustrating for me when I get matched with people who have played this game for like years, either cuz they're smurfs or at level 100-250+. I'm 28 ffs. I would LOVE for people to give me advice if I'm doing something wrong cause I really would love to learn BUT... with that being said: 1) the majority is probably not gonna wanna take advice, sadly. 2) the majority does not want to give advice, and would rather flame. Sadly. 3) the system **does **need to change regardless, cause I don't wanna be matched with you and you don't wanna be matched with me. It sucks for both of us, because I don't learn and you don't climb. I don't play ranked yet, no but the idea is still the same.
HGHam (EUW)
: I'm pissed
Lol, nope ur not the only one. Do you know how frustrating it is for a new player to get matched with people 100-250 or smurfs that obviously know every corner in the game. It's normal games but still, would like a better chance to learn. It's like the winratio has to somehow stay at 50% or something, idk. {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}}
Red Erica (EUW)
: Inting and leaving unpunished
He does have a point, though.
Red Erica (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=CritThatClit,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ZpVFGGFq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-15T12:43:35.542+0000) > > either way he has a point, no1's getting banned for inting. not even himself Absolutely true! However I'm a bad example now because I later got banned for flaming XDXXDDDXXDXXDXD
hahah well that's exactly ur point isn't it. The system is %%%%ed
: i got permabanned
Well tbh, no I don't think you deserve it. Downvote me all you want folks, but a 14 day ban for calling out someone who is wishing his mom to die is not fair. You don't use toxicity towards toxicity, I know, but we are all human and when someone says stuff like that to another player, I feel like the context DOES matter and that levels of toxicity should be punished differently. I know that's not how it works and in the book, saying "you're a %%%%" is the same as wishing someones mom to die from cancer but IT SHOULDN'T. If "%%%%ing troll team" is permaban-worthy, honestly idk what to say. Why do you even report this? If I was in a premade bot team that was feeding that much, I would be too embarassed to even say anything why the f would I report my teammate for thinking that I'm in a "%%%%ing troll team". Agree that mastery and skin doesn't mean you're less prone to get banned but ofc with so many years it will hurt him more, then it would hurt someone like me with little experience and a couple of skins. Mastery and status is no excuse to be toxic, but I don't really believe he was. Try to complain, maybe they would reduce it to 14-days. GL PS: it's not a competition which account outranks who, he still **has **10 years of experience - his account got lost, his experience never will and even though the punctation is horrible, the text is perfectly readable.
DrPacheco (EUW)
: i need friends
why r u guys so mean lol...
: Do i deserve a ban for this?
Wait what. I totally agree that the whole convo is harrasing but is calling for reports actually bannable? Why? I mean unless it's not ban-worthy but if lets say someone is flaming at someone and the other person goes like report (the flammer) - why is that harrasment? Just curious xx
: abusing is the danish name of my child please dont judge
hahaha er du dansk
Antenora (EUW)
: The most disappointing has to be this one - https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/9118cQcpSjP8jEr977CrZAPo6jo=/0x0:1215x717/1200x800/filters:focal(556x18:750x212)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/58910761/21016.1520277269.jpg Gun Goddess Miss Fortune
omg agreed. I didn't buy it though, but as a MF player, I hate how her ultimate skin is literally worse then most skins in this game
: riot did it again
How are you even allowed to have that name
: PSA: You Can't Expect The Support To Always Be There
If you die and your support lives, that's just a good thing for the team right? Rather one dead, then two. I play mostly adc (I'm new btw but love learning the game) and if I get my opponent to 1/5 HP and die, I'd be cheering for my support to get him if they're able to - rather then get mad for taking the kill. It's basically the same here, they are mad cause they failed and you took the "win" (by surviving). I'm new so I'm far from perfect lol but it's about having self awarness. I do mistakes, but mostly I can see if I step in when I wasn't suppose to or when I'm being too agressive for my position. I expect my support to protect me as much as they can, without risking their own life too much **and I'm not doing something dumb**. I started to play some support to see things "from the other side" - and if dying "for the greater good" is worth it, sure, but if it will do more harm then good (e.g my team not doing well or totally outplaying themselves) I wouldn't put my life at risk. That's my opinion at least!
: IFS - incredible %%%%up system?
The system is not to blame for anything at all. You use offensive words = ban. There are kids in this game and people shouldn't go around and say harsh stuff while other players are around (even tho people do, but that's why there's a system). I mean when asked how should they tell that he's messing around, you answer "they're not, that's why the system should be able to read context" - but if players can't tell - HOW can the system? Tbh I find it fairly easy to see when people are trolling or when they're actually being cruel - but you shouldn't expect the system OR the players to. Remember, this is an EUW server so a lot of people are from foreign countries where English isn't their first language. When people see someone using harsh offensive words, ye ofc they would report, cause they don't want that kind of "negativity" in their game. For you and your friend, it was a harmless joke, but for them it's being offensive and ruining their game. It's aaginst the rules to be offensive = ban - so simple. Although I DO agree that permaban is way too harsh. Ban restriction and 14 days if it's continious, sure. Glad he got it reduced anyway. HF
DrPacheco (EUW)
: its worng to beg for rp here?
It's wrong to beg anywhere {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
Rioter Comments
: please remove autofill.
Honestly, I think it's a lot of waiting time when I have to wait for "just" 3 minutes in normal games lol
: > [{quoted}](name=flyingtruffle,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=GkNW9EAl,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-09-13T07:19:08.453+0000) > > IDK if I should be the one to talk since I'm new and haven't even reached 30 yet but... my goal is to practice all roles and be good at them even thought I prefer 1-2 of them. It's like the other game we played with this guy who could "only play yasou". You shouldn't just play one role or one champ, yeah prefer one sure but sticking to one lane all the time doesn't make sense to me. Well, personaly I'm not planning on playing ranked until I feel somewhat comfortable in all roles, and if I do get the role I prefer that's just a bonus. I wouldn't want to wait 10 minutes either. > > But I'm sure some people will agree with you on that. You way of learning is the best one, however don't take too much time with that: the moment you know how to properly farm/manipulate the creep wave, you can play top, mid and ADC with no big differences if not the ones dictated by the champs you are playing. Of course being melee, or being ranged, or having to farm with spells as a mage/assassin all require a different approach...not to mention when you have to deal with how easy is for your opponent to farm AND eventually harass you at the same time (and having to deal with your own harass too, of course), but this is something that you can't simply learn without direct experience. Support is of course different, but hardly more difficult (you still have to learn about positioning and creep manipulation, even if you are not going to farm), while of course jungler is the most specialized role of all but NOT necessarily the most dififcult, as it's often told (quite the opposite, sometimes you will realize you are being mostly carried without doing ALMOST nothing, differently by the support, which in the hardest cases is almost always one step away from death). The most complex, maybe, which is not the same thing.
Thanks for the advice!
: please remove autofill.
IDK if I should be the one to talk since I'm new and haven't even reached 30 yet but... my goal is to practice all roles and be good at them even thought I prefer 1-2 of them. It's like the other game we played with this guy who could "only play yasou". You shouldn't just play one role or one champ, yeah prefer one sure but sticking to one lane all the time doesn't make sense to me. Well, personaly I'm not planning on playing ranked until I feel somewhat comfortable in all roles, and if I do get the role I prefer that's just a bonus. I wouldn't want to wait 10 minutes either. But I'm sure some people will agree with you on that.
Shamose (EUW)
: Normals don't matter for MMR. Yours just got pulled up a %%%%ton because you played with your friend. Once you hit 30 and start ranked, Preferably without your friend, you'll start to get people from your own skill group. Also don't let levels be a factor. The level system is pretty new.
Oh didn't know, thank you! Has the leveling system only been for this season?
: well because you are close to lvl 30 lvl doesnt matter anymore, normal games have their own mmr, its pretty much all about your total normal games and more important your winratio for example me on this i only play rank so im dia and then i once played normal for fun and only get matched with silver because this acc has no normal games yet
Oh but doesnt it still take ages to level up to 200 even though the leveling system is pretty "new"? Okay I see but wouldn't it make more sense if it was an overall mmr - cause I mean if you only play rank you still get experienced with time, so you would probably be much more skilled then the silver player. Anyway, thank you for the clarification!
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: %%%%%%s annoy me
Man, life is too short for this lol. But what do you expect, riot wont punish you really because you don't get punished for your anger, but you surely will be punished by it some day {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
Uraraka (EUNE)
: Yes, what I recommended aren't the best suited for ADC role and will never recommend for a new player like you; they're more like other role champions who can work as ADC or APC. {{champion:22}} {{champion:21}} {{champion:15}} are probably the easiest to play and learn, but not many players pick these champions. Yes, because it is 2v2 lane and we don't use pings/chat often for planning it is always hard to co-ordinate. I was worse when I was new, so I never complain about new players; I didn't see your level at first and because you wrote your friend was Dia I thought you were old player :) Got confused myself there and for new players, I think it is more of problem with smurfs who will be toxic everytime new players make a bad play or miss cs. Yes, mobafire guides are reliable-don't follow every guide; the ones with high votes are usually good and start from there. There are other sites (u.gg, champion.gg, op.gg) which gives build too. Once you learn the stuff, you can create your own rune sets based on your play style and sometimes it can be better than standard runes too. Always welcome and also be careful of the click-bait youtube channels :)
Oh ok lol. I play {{champion:134}} when I'm mid tho, she's a little complex but i really enjoy her so propbably wouldnt mind taking her bot! {{champion:21}} is the one I know and play best tho, she's easy for a newbie yeah :) thanks for the reply <3
: I see, thank you for explaining - I guess there's a lot to think about when picking adc/support. Oh no, he plays mid - what I mean is the skill level of the people we get matched with is a little higher then mine and people usually fill out all roles (what I meant by structural) . Where as where I play alone with less experienced players (or idk if they just troll), then sometimes there wud be 2 at top and no support with me. But yea I know what you mean! I once played with another friend that was supp'ing me and felt totally stupid as well As for the last part, yea I get you it can be frustrating for me as well, so I probably should just wait before locking to see other teams choice of player and pray to get someone reliable and also do my best ig lol Ty for advicing and explaining
PS: regardless what he plays it's in so many way best to play alone or with friends my own skill lvl tbh but unfortunately I don't have any and playing with friends is just so much more fun.
: People hate to play ADC because you are usually a late-game champion, meaning more or less everyone beats you for the duration of the game up to that point. So all you have to do is farm and trade which is not as fun or efficient as roaming and looking for kills. Plus they have to rely on a random player to help them farm against two opponents. When they hate the player who is ADC, it's usually because s/he cannot deal as much damage needed to win fights while defending or securing objectives. Sometimes it's the team's fault that leads the ADC to be weak, but other times the ADC her/himself does not understand how to correctly position and farm e.t.c. meaning s/he is mostly responsible for the team's defeat. ADC carries a heavy burden unlike other roles, which is to win team fights when games last for too long. Since by that time most other champions (with some exceptions like {{champion:10}} {{champion:11}} ) fall-off, it's up to the ADCs to make the difference. So, if you are for any reason weaker from the opponent ADC by that time, you will get blamed. And maybe even rightfully so - not always, but some times. > When I play with my friend (rank dia), the games would be more structural I do not know what do you mean by structural, but I cannot stretch enough how much difference a Diamond support does in the bot lane. If you are a relatively low elo and you play with a Diamond support, regardless of her/his champion, you basically don't play at all. All you do is farm safely and fight when your premade feels like it. You have no initiative. You have no mistakes on their part to deal with. You are degraded to being a mediocre farm bot that follows orders. I have played with a Diamond support, and I was feeling completely numb. I could just walk up to the opponents, on my own for no reason, and I knew I would be safe even if I didn't attack them - and I was. This Diamond guy 1v1 a 4/0 mid-Katarina and won with nothing but Janna support and a completely normal build, being 0/0. That being said > Do you hate ADC I sometimes get frustrated when players autofill ADC and play champions like Jhin or Draven. Playing Jhin while autofilling, is like playing Riven when you autofill Top. There are much easier and efficient champions to do the job when autofilling. And I am not too excited relying on a random stranger, to protect me either. People in my Elo, usually autofill support, and they just want to win the lane without knowing if we actually can. That's why you get Veigar supports and stuff. So I instead prefer to play support myself, because even if the ADC is not good, I can keep her/him alive for as much as possible, and hope there is another teammate who I can help to win fights. Instead of going ADC myself and end up with a feeding support and a weak ADC and play 3v5, I am going support hoping we can 4v5 at worse. I don't know if that's the best thing to do tbh, but I do not want to farm alone 1v3 either.
I see, thank you for explaining - I guess there's a lot to think about when picking adc/support. Oh no, he plays mid - what I mean is the skill level of the people we get matched with is a little higher then mine and people usually fill out all roles (what I meant by structural) . Where as where I play alone with less experienced players (or idk if they just troll), then sometimes there wud be 2 at top and no support with me. But yea I know what you mean! I once played with another friend that was supp'ing me and felt totally stupid as well As for the last part, yea I get you it can be frustrating for me as well, so I probably should just wait before locking to see other teams choice of player and pray to get someone reliable and also do my best ig lol Ty for advicing and explaining
JustClone (EUNE)
: >EDIT: HAHAHAH so u actually get downvoted for simply asking out of curiosity (nicley) and just pointing this out. wauw, sorry but that's so pathetic lol Pathetic is biching about not getting approval from random people on the internet. At least I know I am not attention whore...
You really call this biching? Ok then lol. Yep, I'm an attention whore, that's exactly what pointing this out says about me. Oh the stupidity. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} ... and at least my mouth is not garbage. Watch it, kiddo.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: Players hate every role for some reason, but I am sure that ADC isn't the most hated role. Why? because I am support main and I know that it is the most hated role, making players not even choosing it and don't want to be baby-sitter of ADC. Ask any Jungler, they will say how much they're flamed in games even when it is not even their mistake. I actually don't hate ADC role or ADC champions, but I really hate most of the ADC players. Ironically the role that requires to be positioned safely or well is played by those who position badly. I would be happy if ADC players (especially in and around silver) stopped playing marksmen and simply play picks like {{champion:80}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:134}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:74}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:163}} . Why? Because Marksmen are scaling champions and they need lot of gold to be the "carry". Instead, what I see is that they're playing the game literally to feed and just take cs. No real contribution to team and what's worse, they are the only players who regularly flame and blame others for their mistakes:maybe because I am support, it seems to be lot. I ping, warn in chat to not push and guess what they will push 1v2, 1v3 to die; after 1-2 times they should atleast stop and listen to pings to supp (who sees map a lot), but no. Support leaving for roam or ward or for base, oh yes-they will go die trying to fight opponents 1v2. But when supp is in lane, they will not do anything and stand still auto attacking minions. No poke and no trading, worst of all no farming; I have seen ADC players miss atleast 30 minions which they could've got if they were right clicking to farm and not auto attacking to farm. They will miss all those, but when support is taking few minions they go troll/feed/afk saying stupid things like "stealing cs". And it is common to see adc players afk farming most of the game, after feeding hard; they think and play like they're going to 1v9 and let the team be in disadvantage because of not helping in team fights and taking cs/jg camps from others. If an ADC is like 10-2-5, no one is going to stop them, because they will do damage, but if an ADC is like 2-10-5 there is literally no use in funneling gold to them. Building against opponent's composition is something basic, especially when ADC are targeted first-but they never ever build anything outside recommended items, with no defensive items; I understand that "enchanter supports"help in disengaging and can heal/shield-but gambling on ADC being good, when majority is bad is just hard to play enchanters. This can be seen from their pick rate in and around silver. ADC is put in duo lane, bot lane-because it is closer to drake and in 2v2 lane, chances of snowballing is high: a well fed adc beats any other role and imo they've the highest scaling as a role in general. Problem is even an adc champ who is strong early game, needs to be played safe till they scale up and "playing safe" is just too difficult for the adc players in general; support is the least preferred role and because of this, there are lot of players who don't even know how to play support are in that role. Worst part is I have seen supports not starting with {{item:3303}} {{item:3301}} {{item:3302}} and start with the recommended items (if that champ isn't traditional supp), which literally makes the lane auto-loss. These items generate gold for supports and later helps for getting vision control, which is one of the basic functions of a support. All the opponents have to do is to drag it out and beat with vision control; repeated ambushes are easy to execute because a support item gives wards that last longer and with this it is easy to pull macro-plays to collapse on someone. Last reason is that, on a scaling champion, maximizing gold should be the primary objective. Gold=items=power, but adc players don't understand it and do the reverse by playing so bad giving kills to opponents. The common phrase players say for {{champion:75}} or{{champion:45}} "Farm with Q safely early game and stack up passive" should be said to ADC players whenever they're getting a game, as "Farm safely early game and stack up gold". Getting kills isn't the only way to get gold and even if the lane goes as 0/0/0 with 20 cs lead with 2 turret plates lead, it is a lane won. Because the gold advantage will eventually lead to kills later. tldr: ADC players aren't most hated and ADC isn't most hated role; it is simply that majority of ADC players don't play safe to farm and scale up, but play bad to feed and contribute less to team. If you're learning jungle: https://www.youtube.com/user/virkayu If you're learning adc: https://www.youtube.com/user/eagle2765 These two are really useful channels to learn these specific roles and https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq8up0Ew9K0IiRxbz75BZsg is useful to learn the game overall. gl hf {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
> [{quoted}](name=maayonmaayan,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BtzFPWtK,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-09-04T11:49:56.150+0000) > > I actually don't hate ADC role or ADC champions, but I really hate most of the ADC players. Ironically the role that requires to be positioned safely or well is played by those who position badly. I would be happy if ADC players (especially in and around silver) stopped playing marksmen and simply play picks like {{champion:80}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:134}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:74}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:163}} . Why? Because Marksmen are scaling champions and they need lot of gold to be the "carry". > Oh, you think? It's a little hard to estimate these things when you have little experience, but according to the tons of guides and threads I read, I didn't see people recommend these champs to fill the ADC role. Often the support champs can do multiple roles and maybe mid-top top-mid or junglers that can do other lanes too. I guess that only comes from experience and trying different things. I would more then love to play {{champion:80}} {{champion:134}} maybe {{champion:112}} but I simply thought that they wouldn't fit. I could always give it a try and see for myself. TY for advicing. > Instead, what I see is that they're playing the game literally to feed and just take cs. No real contribution to team and what's worse, they are the only players who regularly flame and blame others for their mistakes:maybe because I am support, it seems to be lot. I ping, warn in chat to not push and guess what they will push 1v2, 1v3 to die; after 1-2 times they should atleast stop and listen to pings to supp (who sees map a lot), but no. Support leaving for roam or ward or for base, oh yes-they will go die trying to fight opponents 1v2. But when supp is in lane, they will not do anything and stand still auto attacking minions. > Don't get me wrong, but when you're new like me sometimes it would be hard to react fast but then I would ofc applogize to my support and explain. Going 1v2 or 1v3 is plain dumb tho. Not helping the supp is also a jerk move. Often I would be passive, but if my supp starts attacking cuz we r positioned well or gets attacked, I would put myself there right away. But tbh at least 50% of the times my support will either be not excisting in the game or not helping me at all. the other 50% makes the game enjoyable tho. > No poke and no trading, worst of all no farming; I have seen ADC players miss atleast 30 minions which they could've got if they were right clicking to farm and not auto attacking to farm. They will miss all those, but when support is taking few minions they go troll/feed/afk saying stupid things like "stealing cs". And it is common to see adc players afk farming most of the game, after feeding hard; they think and play like they're going to 1v9 and let the team be in disadvantage because of not helping in team fights and taking cs/jg camps from others. If an ADC is like 10-2-5, no one is going to stop them, because they will do damage, but if an ADC is like 2-10-5 there is literally no use in funneling gold to them. > Ok, I see. I admit, it took me a while to learn lasthitting well and I'm still not always great at it. But if an ADC is not farming themselves then don't get mad at the support for hitting a few, that's stupid. Sad to hear from many that alot of ADC players are selfish. I personally think it's so nice when teamworking is going well with my supp, it makes the game nicer and more enjoyable but also results in better preformance. > Building against opponent's composition is something basic, especially when ADC are targeted first-but they never ever build anything outside recommended items, with no defensive items; I understand that "enchanter supports"help in disengaging and can heal/shield-but gambling on ADC being good, when majority is bad is just hard to play enchanters. This can be seen from their pick rate in and around silver. ADC is put in duo lane, bot lane-because it is closer to drake and in 2v2 lane, chances of snowballing is high: a well fed adc beats any other role and imo they've the highest scaling as a role in general. > So are the guide (mobafire) reliable? I'm not saying to blindly copy but usually you can read why the different items/spells/abilities are for so it makes sence. Or do I literally have to learn each and every detail from the beginning so I can find my own suitable builds? A lot of work but might be worth it? and lastly thank you for your advices, I'll defiantly take them into account and check out the channels for learning. I read a lot about the champions I play, the game in general but sometimes that's just not enough! :)
Tasuto (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=flyingtruffle,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EiaGVc0G,comment-id=00080000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-04T10:43:01.094+0000) > > But can't you main a female champion without the "e-girls feminazis" thing? I'm a girl and I play female characters sure, but I play male characters that I think r cool as well. Really, depends on who I like and have fun playing - regardless of the gender. Even some males choose to play female characters - isn't what you're saying a little sexist or am I misunderstanding something? im just saying that a very large % of girls play ONLY these female characters
Yeh, you're right about that. I met a few in this short time playing LoL. That I can agree with you on. Where as most guys play both as female and male - I think
: I ain't the best support, but I do my best to be a supportive player. I usually play toplane, but even then my character choises are based on what the team needs. There will always be toxic people and new players have to learn from those toxic players. It also doesn't help when toxic players use OP champions aswell. But the best way to beat a toxic player is to be a supportive player. Even if they are blinded by their rage and pride, supportive players get things done. I admit, even I've said my fair share of nasty things, but I usually try to focus on the real problem. If I'm the problem, I just change the way I play. If I was too offensive just a moment ago, I will now be defensive and ask for help instead of just blaming others. But if the problem is another player? Then I do point out the real problem, but I do not straight up blame them for everything. Like for example, I am dealing with an enemy I can't beat and have been hugging the tower, I ping for help or type it. The second someone starts pinning the blame on me, I remind them that I did ask for help but no one responded. Cause no matter what, if you're attacked by someone, you're allowed to defend yourself. If you attack someone else and keep attacking them, you have thrown away your rights to defend yourself.
Thank you for the advice, I'll defiantaly take that into account - it makes a lot of sense. Maybe I should try to play support a bit just to see things from the other side as well.
: > [{quoted}](name=flyingtruffle,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BtzFPWtK,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2019-09-04T10:38:37.988+0000) > > Plus a little hint for you: I perfectly know that pointing it out will give me more downvotes so I would call it "not giving a f**k" Ok man, but that's a clear bluff. You wrote that because you cared enough to try and strike back at downvoters. Then you concocted this smarter way to kinda "get out of it". No offense, but it's simply obvious.
Oh trying to strike back at downvoters, yea FOR SURE! that I'm not denying. But I know that it will not give me less downvotes people are gonna be like "oh let me downvote her too then" so obviously I don't care about the **amount **of the downvotes, but for the fact that they are downvoting for that reason, yes. If you find that pathetic, cool for you I guess.
Tasuto (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=flyingtruffle,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EiaGVc0G,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2019-09-04T10:32:20.583+0000) > > Why though? Why the hate? Is it a personality thing? a hormonal/anger thing? Do you hate yourself or is it just an URGE to be cruel? Really, I'm just wondering cause I like this game but hate the toxicity.. I'm not going anywhere, I'm a big girl, I'm just curious. at least i'll give you that you dont main janna,nami,sona,lux and all the female champions. i hate the e-girls feminazis in this game
But can't you main a female champion without the "e-girls feminazis" thing? I'm a girl and I play female characters sure, but I play male characters that I think r cool as well. Really, depends on who I like and have fun playing - regardless of the gender. Even some males choose to play female characters - isn't what you're saying a little sexist or am I misunderstanding something?
: umh, actually i kinda bit more pathetic > [{quoted}](name=flyingtruffle,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BtzFPWtK,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-04T07:13:16.839+0000) > > _**EDIT: HAHAHAH so u actually get downvoted for simply asking out of curiosity (nicley) and just pointing this out. wauw, sorry but that's so pathetic lol**_ > Umh, actually is kinda more pathetic to even care about downvotes to begin with. But if pointing that out made you feel better... {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
Plus a little hint for you: I perfectly know that pointing it out will give me more downvotes so I would call it "not giving a f**k"
: umh, actually i kinda bit more pathetic > [{quoted}](name=flyingtruffle,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BtzFPWtK,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-04T07:13:16.839+0000) > > _**EDIT: HAHAHAH so u actually get downvoted for simply asking out of curiosity (nicley) and just pointing this out. wauw, sorry but that's so pathetic lol**_ > Umh, actually is kinda more pathetic to even care about downvotes to begin with. But if pointing that out made you feel better... {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
I'm taking it with a smile on my lips lol wouldn't call that caring. I guess it's not nessecarily imporant to point it out, but I don't hold things back and I found it pathetic so I said it ;) that's it, hope that doesn't bother you too much {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: >Let me guess. You're one of those !@#% up smurfs who !@#% up the game for a new gal like me that's doing all she can to learn this game, ragin af cause she's not as good as a 7+ year old player Yes
Why though? Why the hate? Is it a personality thing? a hormonal/anger thing? Do you hate yourself or is it just an URGE to be cruel? Really, I'm just wondering cause I like this game but hate the toxicity.. I'm not going anywhere, I'm a big girl, I'm just curious.
: When ever I play adc, I play it slow and steady. As in, I don't just attack enemy, I farm first and try to use my abilities so that I can both farm AND deal some damage to the enemy player. Also I mostly focus on the main objective, destroying towers, inhibitors and nexus. Kills are just a bonus. So technically I'm the worst adc in the world cause I don't have the similar bloodlust most other adc's have. But when ever I get put into the support role, I either get 1 of these 2 options usually. 1 is the adc with insane bloodlust, they just go at the enemy and ignore farm all because I landed 1 ability that was meant to slow the enemy so that the adc could back up a little it. 2 is the type of adc who will never attack an enemy even when they get the perfect chance. I use my abilities on this 1 enemy player who has 50% health, the adc has plenty of range with their abilities and they have full mana, they will not waste any of that mana but run after the enemy and try to kill them with auto attacks. I manage to stun lock an enemy for an easy kill, the only reason why adc doesn't go for the kill is cause the enemy support is there, clearly focusing on me. And the worst part is when I support 1 of these 2 options is that, anything that goes wrong, it's my fault. Cause the adc with the bloodlust will just dive in and I have to dive in after them and if they die or don't get the kill after I die, it's my fault. With the other it's more of a, I dive in after seeing that both adc and support are at 50% as we are still at 100% health, I start using my abilities to try to keep these guys stun locked or make them waste their abilities on me, all the while the adc just isn't paying any attention and doesn't even try to use abilities on the enemy. So people technically hate adc's cause they usually tend to be toxic and they tend to play with premades who will defend them even when they can clearly see that the adc is being toxic. Oh yeah, I know there are toxic people on every role, in fact, we're all toxic one way or another even if we don't admit it. It's not fun to work with a person who is constantly putting the blame on you and somehow managing to get everyone else agree on that. And ADC's tend to be the most toxic cause they have a partner on their lane. Top lane is alone, midlane is alone, but botlane is the only lane that has to share it's lane with someone else. On botlane, there are 2 people constantly judging each other and trying to play the game the way they want to play. And since 1 of these players has to play the healer, slower, stunner, shielder, damage sponge, ranged back up, this player will have it hard, if they are playing an actual support, since they have to be the one who has to make sure this adc stays alive and gets plenty of gold to work with. And it's really hard to work with someone who is just constantly telling you that you should delete the game, get actually good, learn to play, kill yourself, get a nasty disease and throw every possible insult known to man. Even if you mute them, they will play in a way that makes it impossible to support them in any way. You use your abilities too early cause the adc looks like they're about to do this, your constantly out of mana cause your adc is constantly getting into situations where you just waste mana, your abilities are on cooldown when the adc does something and you tend to use your abilities on others cause they atleast get a proper use out of the abilities. Supports can be as bad, but atleast I can tell when I can't rely on them.
That’s a good way to play. At first I was too offensive and learned eventually that I have to farm first and take it cool. That so horrible, I didn’t know that was people’s experience with ADCs. You sound like a good support, but trust me that’s not how it is all the time. I find that when the support role is played by an actual support champ, it usually goes really well and they do corporate nicely, but when the suppose to be support, chooses a tankier/damage dealing champ and says theyre supporting it usually doesn’t go so well. Maybe I’m doing something wrong idk. Sometimes I wouldn’t even have a support and there would be 2 top laners, but I’m guessing that wouldn’t happen later on (at a higher lvl)? Sorry for your experience on behalf of all the idiots, I sure hope that changes because I do like the role and aim to get good at it. Toxicity is the worst part of this game.
Jesi Oni (EUNE)
: They are boring most of the time... Not even by gameplay but by design~ appearance and lore. I would like to see more champions like Ezreal or Xayah that are no typical gun/bow users and we still dont have a beardy mage that makes PewPew out of his magical staff by building full crit.
Well yea, I do find the variety limited tbh. The ones I like though are enough for me to have fun with, but to each it's own!
Tasuto (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=flyingtruffle,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EiaGVc0G,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000002,timestamp=2019-09-04T06:18:32.188+0000) > > I hope that was a joke lol it probably isn't though. Sad life. Saaaad.... not a joke of course. i did it last season with teemo 0-20 but i got 14 days suspension. it was a lesson for the future to keep my mouth shut and not telling them i will feed. just do it and not cross the red line. 0-20 is bannable. 0-13 or 2-15 is not if i stay quiet and just do my job haha.
I think I might have misunderstood the point of the game lol but I understand you're trying to teach them a lesson, I hope you don't do that for no reason - cuz really then ur just ruining the game for them but some people don't care I guess. Especially when permabanned on main
Tasuto (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Prepuzius,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EiaGVc0G,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2019-09-03T15:54:36.681+0000) > > so, because noone of your teammates did nothing to prevent you for getting perma'ed (wtf) you don't care to ruin other player experience? riot didnt care to take action when people wished me to kill myself or get cancer,im talking about them. community is toxic,so i dont give a shit about other players in the game. i only care if i play with my friends (and if we go tryhard,otherwise its a game i will troll anyway, i dont care if some people think their %%%% will grow if they climb the ladder and take this game more seriously than they should have). i love trash talking and if someone cant handle that, thats not something that has to bother me. i always call people iron boosted feeders without even knowing them in pregame chat, telling them i will mute them, telling them i will not group with a bunch of unskilled players cause they dont deserve to win and climb and ruin the experience of the game for others which are above their true skill level, telling the jungler not to gank my lane cause h bought his account from ebay and stuff like that. not my fault if people get tilted easily
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