: Should Riot follow Epic's example and shut down the forums?
Close boards it's a very bad idea, hat's what they said to Riot FR but they did not listen. as usual ... Between promoting phishing sites, destroying years of volunteer work, and closing forums, it always surprises us as RiotFR do to do so much shit without being fired
: > [{quoted}](name=iElden,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7Q4wdU7O,comment-id=00010000000200000002,timestamp=2019-05-17T14:22:42.665+0000) > > I take my share of responsibility, but for me, it's a small. > The only thing I did was complain about the abuse of moderation power (with proof to support). > You (the junior volunteers at this time) did not like the principle that I could read the messages after taking an abusive ban (ban I received because I criticized the moderation btw). > Not to mention the ban that Tigtig received for talking about computer security. > > Following these abusive banns, I created a discord so that people could speak freely without risk of retaliation. > **I encourage people who wanted to express themselves to do it.** > Unfortunately, the moderation (composed of you and your boyfriend) did not like the critics much, although it is good and justified, you decided to remove this freedom of speech to the people who were not in your camp, and it's intolerable. > You did not respect the moderation charter, which is there precisely to avoid these abuses. > **So, I encouraged people to express themselves in a way that they could not retaliate.** > > So yes, the downvoter bot was born (besides, it was not done by me) > You did not like that we could do that, we proposed several times a calm disscution between the two parts, but you had only one desire : we leave the forum. And since you can not make us leave, you have decided to delete the forum. > For me, it's just the image of communication and technical incompetence. > > so I'll give you back your sentence: everyone has the right to talk and you are not one to decide this or not I'm not part of this stuff of what happened on that discord. I just know you and other people had a part in it. Didn't even know about it untill it was all out. You are totally wrong here. I have never been in the moderation team actually. Which ones actually ? No I'm sure if moderators go and look a bit all people who have been moderated there are justifications. Again I have never been part of the moderation team so I'm not concerned by this moderation chart. But of course you guys (and i'm actually not even including you here) are all white here, you have always fully respected people here. Yes and ? (I actually don't care who made it you know) I pretty much didn't care since it didn't stop me doing my stuffs. Nope not really but whatever. That you leave the boards I didn't really care. That you stop your harassment and personal attacks yes. I'm sorry but I actually don't have the power to do this. Yeah sure you can but I never once said you couldn't actually. Everyone has the right to talk. But everyone have also to be wary of what they actually say and mostly how they say it.
> [{quoted}](name=TsubaNezumi,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7Q4wdU7O,comment-id=000100000002000000020000,timestamp=2019-05-17T14:53:52.201+0000) > > You are totally wrong here. I have never been in the moderation team actually. Which ones actually ? we know very well that your friend let you access mod tools and the TH of seniors, and i have proof of this. >No I'm sure if moderators go and look a bit all people who have been moderated there are justifications. In any case, the player support found no reason to justify the ban. > Again I have never been part of the moderation team so I'm not concerned by this moderation chart. it's the problem, you've never been in the moderation team, but you've moderated people >But of course you guys (and i'm actually not even including you here) are all white here, you have always fully respected people here. Which person I have not respected in the last 2 years ? (Except for Tcherki who I remined why all this happened) > Yes and ? (I actually don't care who made it you know) Yet, the day an account proved to be the creator of the bot, he took a permaban in one message, oof. >That you stop your harassment and personal attacks yes. who i harassed ? > Everyone has the right to talk. But everyone have also to be wary of what they actually say and mostly how they say it. But, in reality, it was: "Everyone has the right to speak as long as he agrees with moderation", and it is the problem.
: > [{quoted}](name=iElden,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7Q4wdU7O,comment-id=000100000002,timestamp=2019-05-17T12:53:18.870+0000) > > My bad, Everyone except the Tina's friend, ie 5 peoples, did not agree with the removal of the forum, include all lurkers. > Moreover you are part of the ex-volunteers who made it possible to arrive at this situation and what's more, one of the two volunteers who abused the rights of moderation that was not supposed to have because of the status of "junior". > So I think you're not the right person to talk about that. If you're going on this again, you can talk. You also have a part in this. And not a small one. So same thing could be said to you.... but **everyone her has the right to talk and you are not one to decide this or not**
> [{quoted}](name=TsubaNezumi,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7Q4wdU7O,comment-id=0001000000020000,timestamp=2019-05-17T13:12:21.577+0000) > > If you're going on this again, you can talk. You also have a part in this. And not a small one. So same thing could be said to you.... but **everyone her has the right to talk and you are not one to decide this or not** I take my share of responsibility, but for me, it's a small. The only thing I did was complain about the abuse of moderation power (with proof to support). You (the junior volunteers at this time) did not like the principle that I could read the messages after taking an abusive ban (ban I received because I criticized the moderation btw). Not to mention the ban that Tigtig received for talking about computer security. Following these abusive banns, I created a discord so that people could speak freely without risk of retaliation. **I encourage people who wanted to express themselves to do it.** Unfortunately, the moderation (composed of you and your boyfriend) did not like the critics much, although it is good and justified, you decided to remove this freedom of speech to the people who were not in your camp, and it's intolerable. You did not respect the moderation charter, which is there precisely to avoid these abuses. **So, I encouraged people to express themselves in a way that they could not retaliate.** So yes, the downvoter bot was born (besides, it was not done by me) You did not like that we could do that, we proposed several times a calm disscution between the two parts, but you had only one desire : we leave the forum. And since you can not make us leave, you have decided to delete the forum. For me, it's just the image of communication and technical incompetence. so I'll give you back your sentence: everyone has the right to talk and you are not one to decide this or not
: > [{quoted}](name=iElden,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7Q4wdU7O,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-17T11:57:09.054+0000) > > We all say it's a bad idea to replace forum by a discord server, but RiotFR decided to continue not to listen ... That's not true though. Some people do complain about it and think it's a bad idea but not everyone. Some do think it's a good one. You also very well know that people complaining are more visible than people agreeing
> [{quoted}](name=AliasTcherki,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7Q4wdU7O,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-17T12:36:38.836+0000) > > That's not true though. Some people do complain about it and think it's a bad idea but not everyone. Some do think it's a good one. > You also very well know that people complaining are more visible than people agreeing My bad, Everyone except the Tina's friend, ie 5 peoples, did not agree with the removal of the forum, include all lurkers. Moreover you are part of the ex-volunteers who made it possible to arrive at this situation and what's more, one of the two volunteers who abused the rights of moderation that was not supposed to have because of the status of "junior". So I think you're not the right person to talk about that.
: French forum is dead, long live the forum !
We all say it's a bad idea to replace forum by a discord server, but RiotFR decided to continue not to listen ...
: Presenting the EU Boards Discord!

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