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baurdica (EUW)
: You are a toxic player and every bad word that you will use in future games will trigger you for ban(context does not count anymore).There is no redemption once you have been banned for toxicity.You are flaming on the forums now that you are scared to flame in game.Live to your mistake , learn from it and move on.Topic closed...another toxic player wants to make it seem like is the support's fault...
rockatrm (EUW)
: I think that the support was on point and you are actually being butthurt for something that you did. :( you deserve the ban, stop fighting fire with fire. its that simple. Also, I figure that you are not a parrot to repeat everything, note that you are a human being and you can actually ignore and mute players :)
I actually got unbanned :) guess I didn't deserve it
baurdica (EUW)
: You are a toxic player and every bad word that you will use in future games will trigger you for ban(context does not count anymore).There is no redemption once you have been banned for toxicity.You are flaming on the forums now that you are scared to flame in game.Live to your mistake , learn from it and move on.Topic closed...another toxic player wants to make it seem like is the support's fault...
A bunch of people disagree with you and I haven't flamed on the forums lol
: using the chat is offensive
marcus85 (EUW)
: Getting banned for abusive behaviour (but not really) Update
Not xPeke (EUW)
: they should be bending their rule though IMHO. Because it was not hate speech. Simple as that. The line between what he typed and actual flame and hate speech is actually huge. Anyone with a brain would realise it was not hate speech.
TTekkers (EUW)
: If you're gonna respond to flame, you absolutely cannot say anything as either a phrase or isolated word that could be construed as flame or hate speech or any kind of insult whatsoever because in the rules that Riot apply, that counts as flaming back which is equally as punishable as flaming. The best way to respond to flame is to not respond at all. But if you must, then calmly explain stuff - the flamer will either be angry that they don't understand, flame more and you mute them. Or they will see the logic and calm down. Or their puny brains can't comprehend common sense, and your wisdom will be as a god is to a mortal, and they will hero-worship you for the rest of the game .... just kidding. Anyway, this approach is not punishable when executed right, may help with reform or will at least dig the flamer a deeper hole for a more certain punishment.
But like it can't be construed as flame or hate I just literally said saying f*ggot is more like flaming than saying you're greedy literally if a human read that it is obviously not hate speech but because it's a bot it just can't take into account hate speech and this conversation lasted a whole 30 seconds - 1 minute it was 5 lines not like a massive argument
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I obviously did not because that implies I insulted him like he did to me since that's his "fire" and the obvious question why I was banned for hate speech when it wasn't
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Doesn't it seem like an automated response to you? Literally repeats the everything in the reform card and doesn't expand on any of my questions
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=marcus85,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=UhPM2xXh,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-15T19:44:23.298+0000) > > It's only hate speech if you're using it in a hateful way hence hate No point in arguing it. You have your opinion. Riot have theirs. Its their game. So their opinion matters more. In their opinion repeating hate speech slurs is not allowed. If its not perma ban, be careful next time. If it is, forget about that account and move on.
So I just get dishonoured and potentially lose out on my end of season rewards for no reason and just be like "yeah it's all good" if people just accepted things then the world would sure be a different placed
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=marcus85,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=UhPM2xXh,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-08-15T19:40:33.262+0000) > > If that's how it works guess we can't report homophobic crimes without being arrested ourselves. Context makes all the difference lol Or you could have said "Using homophobic slurs = Flaming" without repeating that slur. Right? Just because someone else decided to use hate speech doesnt give everyone chance to use them without consequences.
It's only hate speech if you're using it in a hateful way hence hate
: I'd suggest you to open another ticket and write it as complicated (but still readable) as possible, for example don't use the word ''banned'' instead say, restricted from your account, or punished, because certain keywords like ''banned'' trigger a bot when sending the ticket
If I get another weird reply I'll try it
archerno1 (EUNE)
: Repeating homohpobic slurs is no different from saying it in first place. Its considered hate speech.
If that's how it works guess we can't report homophobic crimes without being arrested ourselves. Context makes all the difference lol
marcus85 (EUW)
: Getting banned for abusive behaviour (but not really) Update
http://imgur.com/a/tZpbM This is actually getting to me, does Riot not read chat logs?
Smerk (EUW)
: Just add another comment in that same ticket, first one is usually template/bot answer
Thanks I'll do that now and update you how it goes
: i really hate the fact that bots identified you as a flamer and that the other pleb not... reopen another ticket and use the contact a rioter feature because obviously the bot just found the word fa**ot and got u suspended for it and since bots dont understand the context it was obviously a mistake
Thanks for the suggestion I'll try it now ^^
Rioter Comments
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Pretty sure I did to make things run faster also changed a lot of other stuff
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Would you like me to repair the client then log back in with step by step screenshot shots?
Mada (EUW)
: Did you just try to outsmart the system that determines if your behaviour is toxic or not? And you just assumed it's a grammar nazi? WOW! I don't know what to say, other than "glad the system works" On a side note: those machine learning thingies are getting really good. I happened to see the Faker of DOTA2 (who's apparently called Dendi. I think they're mocking us!) play against a google ai bot on twitch. Dendi was the only one of their pros who managed to kill it one time ^^
: even in lol esports videos pros use f word but dont get banned, how is that fair ?
This was me quoting someone calling me it not me even using it in an offensive manner as well lol
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
What? How have I modded the client? I am so confused right now xD
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I took a screenshot of you just the reform card didn't think I needed to include my client and of course I explained what happened fully I want to be unbanned lol > [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=1lvyTNV8,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-08-15T07:25:51.555+0000) > > I'mn sorry, but that reform card is blatantly photoshopped. How about you provide _actual_ evidence? > > For context, a reform card nowadays looks like this: > > https://support.riotgames.com/hc/article_attachments/115012195007/in_client_reform_cards_1_EN.jpg > > The one you show is completely different. Also, you went pretty creative with the "punishment" explanation, as I can see. http://imgur.com/a/wtulY See there's your proof
IlIIIIl (EUNE)
: riot sysem is legit broken dude... after i just got unbanned from 2 week ban, i played one game and got perma banned, because i was losing lane and team started harassing me so i said 'stop flaming me or i int' and got ban lol idc tho cuz i have many more accounts but damn... be very careful after 2 week ban expires because riot will perma ban you for the smallest thing... trust me.. u will be surprised..better dont type anything in chat after your 2 week is over and keep it that way for like 3 months before offense sysem resets
: Bad luck, the F word triggered the bot, im sure if you write a supp ticket to the Riot Support you will be able to acces your account way sooner because it might get lifted, i'd suggest to reply to the ticket if the response you get seems a bit off/automated/copypasted
Thanks for the advice and I'll tell you how it goes when I get a reply
: I agree, usually the 'there's a chat filter' argument doesn't stand on it's own, but combine that with the fact that you weren't actually calling someone that word I really don't think your ban is warranted in a moral sense. Sadly it still breaches the ToS I think. *However* if you make a ticket and appeal you'll probably stand a better chance than most people to get your ban lifted, still unlikely, but possible. Worth a shot.
Thank you for your support, I'll tell you how it goes
: If you use the f word = insta punishment. Even if you're referring to somebody else using the word
How is that fair? It's like reporting a racist crime and telling the police what the person said then getting arrested for saying it
: Well you used the F word, bot doesn't care about the context, it only cares about words. If he also used the same words he probably will get banned too. I am not sure though because the bot also might care about the number of times you use the banned word. A Rioter mentioned somewhere about how a report is like Boolean(so it doesn't take into an account the number of times you are reported), but I am not exactly sure if it enables the whole chat for 9 people or only against the reported person. So if you didn't report him, may be he will not get banned(happens to me sometimes because I forget in the end).
Isn't that the reason there's a language filter? Mine is turned off because I don't mind seeing it but to others it'll just be *** and do you think I deserved the ban?
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