: korea does, but they don't even ban afking there
Also in Korea your account is bound to your ID (basically), so if you actually would get a perma, you would be gone forever. Korea has a very different culture when it comes to games.
: That is not true. If you int on purpose you will get banned. I saw it with my own eyes.
Int = intentional = ALWAYS on purpose. There is no such thing as inting by mistake.
DiceFM (EUNE)
: Hey bro i am just a dude trying to get his account back.
You won't. Behavior based bans don't get lifted, unless there was a mistake.
DiceFM (EUNE)
: Although Tyler1 DID get banned for the same reason and also DID get unbanned.
This argument... Tyler1 got ID banned = ALL his accounts got banned on site. You are just permabanned = you can create new accounts. Tyler's ID ban got lifted, he can now create accounts again. His permabanned accounts are, and will remain, banned. BIG differences, get your facts straight...
: > [{quoted}](name=sirDarts,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ElBETKzH,comment-id=00000001000000000002000100000000,timestamp=2018-04-20T09:18:50.374+0000) > > If they love the game, why would they risk getting banned just to flame someone? > Why would you invest in something if you are likely to lose it, because you can't stop flaming? > Same level of logic. > > I've been playing since Season 1. The system is WAY faster, unless you play like 6 or 7+ games per day, and then it's more or less the same speed. There is RNG, yes, but you are guaranteed 810 BE in every chest, AND if you get the shards you want, you save 50% on the champ. So all the RNG is in your favor, compared to IP. > > Why would they say it if the person hadn't asked for an unban? Of COURSE there is context. Support doesn't just say stuff out of the blue. You think people get banned delibrately? It's human nature to vent frustration some type some don't, some have better self control than others. Correct if you're playing alot of games it's worse. I don't know facts and figures for how many hours people play a day but alot of people will play alot, so if you play more you get less that's a good system huh? You grind more you get less. No you made it out as there was a hidden message in the context of " so you think you reformed sure make a new account ". No it's plain black and white feel free to make a new account but the same rules apply, so if you haven't changed you will probably get banned again that's the context of it.
It's not human nature to type your frustration into a chat and insult others. That's completely and absolutely deliberate. Not to mention that there are several warnings before a permaban, and if you don't heed those, I highly doubt you love the game. If you play a LOT more than the average player, you will get SLIGHTLY less than you used to, but that still doesn't take into account the discount you get on the champions you get the shards for. So in the end, you either have to get SUPER unlucky, or play like 10+ games a day (which is easily 10+ hours, including queues and stuff). That's incredibly rare for someone to play that many hours every single day. Weekends, maybe. People write to support: "Please unban me, I am a good boy now!" Support replies: "No unbans, but feel free to make a new account." You REALLY think it's not implied that they only say that because the player said they are good now? Really? Also yeah, of course, if you didn't change you are likely to get punished again, REALLY quickly because new accounts are punished more swiftly and harsher than lvl 30+ accounts.
: > [{quoted}](name=sirDarts,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ElBETKzH,comment-id=000000010000000000020001,timestamp=2018-04-20T07:01:19.199+0000) > > You got proof that most banned people love the game? > Grinding BE is actually quite a bit faster than grinding IP was in the past, so there is even less reason to buy champions for RP these days. > And they definitely don't have any reason to buy skins, seeing that they now know how easily they are able to throw their account away. > And yeah, they might buy an account to avoid the grind, but that's 0$ for Riot. > > There is context to the support message - they write it to people who ask to be unbanned. So it's more in the lines of: "So, you think that you have actually reformed now? Sure, feel free to make a new account." > Considering that low level accounts are punished more swiftly, and harshly, chances are that if they didn't reform, they will get banned again before they hit 30. What everyone's just playing a game they hate then? My logic seems a little more realistic oppose to you're made up number who won't ever buy rp again on a new account. How long have you been playing? The new system isn't quite a bit faster at all and theres the rng factor to what comes out the chests. Theres zero context to it they tell you feel free to make a new account but the same rules apply as before.
If they love the game, why would they risk getting banned just to flame someone? Why would you invest in something if you are likely to lose it, because you can't stop flaming? Same level of logic. I've been playing since Season 1. The system is WAY faster, unless you play like 6 or 7+ games per day, and then it's more or less the same speed. There is RNG, yes, but you are guaranteed 810 BE in every chest, AND if you get the shards you want, you save 50% on the champ. So all the RNG is in your favor, compared to IP. Why would they say it if the person hadn't asked for an unban? Of COURSE there is context. Support doesn't just say stuff out of the blue.
: > [{quoted}](name=sirDarts,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ElBETKzH,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2018-04-19T08:01:08.561+0000) > > This pseudo-argument again... Sigh... > > Riot does NOT permaban players to make money! 99+% of permabanned players WON'T even spend money on their new accounts! > > Permaban is used to remove people from the game. Sadly there is no way for Riot to prevent them from coming back, they would if they could. You got proof of that 99%?? Most people banned love the game and either buy or make a new account then buy champions because it takes so long to grind BE now and probably skins too. They tell you on the support feel free to make a new account you just can't access you're permad account, so do they really not want them to play?
You got proof that most banned people love the game? Grinding BE is actually quite a bit faster than grinding IP was in the past, so there is even less reason to buy champions for RP these days. And they definitely don't have any reason to buy skins, seeing that they now know how easily they are able to throw their account away. And yeah, they might buy an account to avoid the grind, but that's 0$ for Riot. There is context to the support message - they write it to people who ask to be unbanned. So it's more in the lines of: "So, you think that you have actually reformed now? Sure, feel free to make a new account." Considering that low level accounts are punished more swiftly, and harshly, chances are that if they didn't reform, they will get banned again before they hit 30.
JenShen (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=sirDarts,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ElBETKzH,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2018-04-19T08:01:08.561+0000) > > This pseudo-argument again... Sigh... > > Riot does NOT permaban players to make money! 99+% of permabanned players WON'T even spend money on their new accounts! > > Permaban is used to remove people from the game. Sadly there is no way for Riot to prevent them from coming back, they would if they could. I actually do not think it's all about the money in these cases, it's more like, Riot: hey guys, we have system that works, and punish players, not the problematic( the reason for our toxic comunity) feeders and inters but guys that use the chat!!! So you ca see we are doing a good job. At least this is how it feels right now. And by someone who recently was permabanned, i am actually more likely to spend money if somehow i can bring my 7 year account, than on my smufr, that i use only for gold rewards skins. But i gues speaking agains trolls and feeders and being powerless to do anything agains them is now heavy crime and deserves punishment. And they care about money this is why they try to convince us that their system is working, so people can say ok this game will get less toxic, but at the end this is not the case. You know, only verly little part of the comunity will be extreamly toxic(maybe some basic level flaming because this is a competative game, but,noting extream) if there is no feeders or trolls, but who am i to speak
I don't really understand your reply. In some parts it looks like you agree, in others like you don't, and in others it looks like you are replying to a completely different message. So at least some reply: YES. It is about money. Just as you said, removing toxic elements = making game more enjoyable, especially for casual players. And casual players that are having fun = MONEY. It just has nothing to do with permabanned players spending money to re-buy their champions/skins. These are more likely to just buy an illegal account that someone leveled up.
Str33TXeR (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=JenShen,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ElBETKzH,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-04-19T06:34:55.041+0000) > > I think something like permamute will fix alot of things, or not perma mute but 1 k games chat restrict or something and i will tell you why. > > If you are only flaming every one can just mute you anyway,and if you can write only once every 5 min it's not that much even if you flame hard, but here where the actuall fix to the current system may come. > > Most of the time you are saing That riot tried this with the 1k chat restrict games and failed misserably, right? well now the things may change actually becasue if someone is flaming you restrict their chat, if they start trolling(which is waht most of you believes happend after Riot chatrestriction experiment) it is easyer to be detected if he trolls, if he keeps flaming just make the time between chat like 10 min or something ,writing 2-3 times in game is not that toxic no matter waht you say, so yeah this could be a fix or something. This dude's got a point!!! But then again, how do you wish riot make more money? No perma bans means no more new accounts, no more new skins to buy, no nothing :({{sticker:sg-janna}}
This pseudo-argument again... Sigh... Riot does NOT permaban players to make money! 99+% of permabanned players WON'T even spend money on their new accounts! Permaban is used to remove people from the game. Sadly there is no way for Riot to prevent them from coming back, they would if they could.
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: There is something as demotion protection. Say that you got from gold IV to gold III and lost a game, you will not be demoted immediately (not sure if Riot ever said how it exactly works). When it already wear off, even one lost with 0 LP should be enough to make you fall. It work little different when falling between divisions. To get from gold V to silver I your MMR need to be way lower than the one for gold V (or according to some users estimation, it should be even way lower than those at silver I). So as long as you will keep your MMR in some range, you will not fall off from division. Falling between the same division is easier.
Actually, even lower for Tier demotion > Since Season 4 it is possible to be demoted from a tier. Players in the division V of a tier whose MMR drops an entire tier are warned about possible demotion. For example, a player in Gold V will receive a warning upon reaching Silver V MMR. From league of legends wikia.
ShanksFX (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YX4BgjEm,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-04-12T20:09:16.015+0000) > > Are you Tyler1? No? Then sorry, no second chance. > > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} Not sure if troll or stupid..
: How many more players are there on NA compared to other servers?
https://bit.ly/2pCtzu1 - EUW is the biggest server, just ahead of Korea, then a long gap, then EUNE, and only then NA. The reason with the boards is mainly because EU boards are split into many languages, while NA boards are just English.
AskeLjuca (EUNE)
: Unban
You reformed? Good, make a new account and start again. The vast majorit of people (95+%) who managed to get a permaban will never reform.
Infinixity (EUNE)
: Banned for 20 mins because of lag
350 kbps? The hell? How long did it take you to download the last few patches, that were several gigs? A week?
: Oh , i didn't know , I always /all when someone needs a report in my team for troll or flame. Thanks !
Yeah, don't do it. It's completely useless. One report is worth just as much as 9.
Mugurele (EUNE)
: If you do anything from the list above and you don’t react on chat you won’t get punished. This is the end of the story! Punishments are made because of the chat, nothing more. But instead if we would change our way of thinking about the punishments we could solve this real problem.
This is wrong. Trolls do get punished, but it's really hard to tell who is actually a troll, and who just had a bad game, that's why it is harder to punish trolls than flamers.
Ratched7 (EUW)
: About the rating system
The grade is based on comparing you against other players playing the champion in the same role. "CS counts to much" because other people have good CS on the champion in that role. It's a direct comparison. Riot doesn't set the values.
: League of Legends is Dead
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
Djedo (EUNE)
: "Ez"
While I agree that saying it after the game ends is just plain wrong and shouldn't be done, because it's after the game, you are supposed to shake hands and go for the next match, not deal with more BS. I wouldn't be bothered so much by it, if it was the best player on the enemy team saying it. But like 99% of the time it's the 1/12/4 dude who got hard-carried, and to make it better you were the one who gave him the pretty score, and they just do it to buff up their fragile ego that got a hard hit by getting carried.
: Kai’Sa's unnecessarily deep neckline
If Kay'sa's outfit is a problem. Why isn't this? https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/Varus_0.jpg From my point of view, neither is.
zixus (EUNE)
: Is calling someone an idiot reportable or is it not considered toxicity
Sun7illMoon (EUNE)
: Why my honor system locked?
Just play the game and behave well. Be helpful, don't flame, don't blame, be a generally nice person. Btw it takes A LONG time to unlock it.
Janny8 (EUW)
: Kids born in 2000 are actually 17
Some are already 18, and the others will be 18 this year. Hence the "18 **this year**".
Yunarito (EUW)
: Championshards
I could get behind this idea. And if Riot wants to make sure people don't go around selling stuff, they could limit it to trading: For example, you can trade, with your friend of 14+ days, champion shards of the same value. Your friend has a 6300 champion shard you want? You have a 6300 champion shard they want? Trade. Could be made more lenient by allowing people to trade several shards of the same value for one shard of higher value, shards + BE of the same value or even directly trade for BE.
: Since the change from IP to BE I've kept all my shards because champion mastery costs tons of hard to get BE and since I have almost all champions I think It's a good strategy for someone that likes to play different champs
I don't really give a flying F about buying champion mastery. I consider that a BE sink just as the BE Emporium, completely useless, unless you have nothing else to spend BE on. And while I do understand that some people do care about it, it doesn't change the "everything I don't want", just keep those shards you might want to unlock mastery with, same as I keep the champions I might want to unlock in the future (I've got Orn shard sitting there for like 2 months). Either or, neither of us would utilize the "disenchant all" button, or even some sort of "mass disenchant".
: 18 years old ain't adult... Unless you live in India... 21-23 years old is where adulthood comes. Being 18 means you are a matured kid... Even if pretty much all of them act like 5 year olds, cause they focused to much on video games in school and has almost no eduction.
That's why I said officially. From the law point of view, you are an adult with 18.
Neissera (EUNE)
: DISENCHANT ALL BUTTON
How did you even manage to rack up 40 shards? O.o I just disenchant everything I don't want instantly as I get it.
: "No, No. Nerf her! She must be nerfed! She has over 9000% winrate in all regions! OMG!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" - Kids birthed in 2000
Just btw, Kids born in 2000 are 18 this year, and thus officially adults. And now you feel old. {{sticker:sg-syndra}}
: I dont care. If they troll every time someone bans their pick they lose more points than i do.
But banning their intended pick just makes no sense. You can't even know whether they know how to play it, or not, they might have already played a bunch of games of it on PBE, you just can't know. And at the same time you can't know with an old champion, whether they know how to play it, or just now picked it up. You are just adding likeliness of a loss for no real reason.
: Play blind pick. I will always ban new champs/reworked champs in the first week in ranked. Id rather have a frustrated laner who wanted to pick new champ than have a feeding laner who picked a new champ.
So they will just pick an old champion for the first time, or directly troll because you banned their pick. GG no RE
Hellfireuzu (EUNE)
: I agree with your first point, there is no guarantee of refund, that is why I asked. No, it's totally not how it works. Every single game that offered me microtransactions so far did refund me stuff when it seemed reasonable. I will feel free to never purchase anything in League with real money again, exactly correct. On the other hand common sense says I might have right to refund and it is clearly company dependent.
I don't know a single game with microtransactions that just refunds you when you "no longer like the content". Especially after you were able to use it for years. That's just not reasonable. Then you could just get everything refunded when you "no longer like the game".
Reflex01 (EUW)
: Yes, but he did not do much feed 0-0-3 and remake and next day i get permaban there is a feedbot computer.I had an account and this problem happened
IT DOESN'T MATTER! The account got banned because it was sold/bought! MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT!
Shukr4n (EUW)
: how is coherent #1 and #3 ?
How is it not? The system doesn't just decide by whether people honor you or not. It's a small bonus, yes. And especially if everyone honors, it helps. But you might never get honored once and your honor level will still progress at about the same pace as others, if you behave.
Lexient (EUW)
: wishing a more strict ban policy
The issue is that people are abusing the griefing and inting reports for people who just play bad. Intention behind an action like dying is hard to automatically detect. Without clear intention, Riot can't punish it. And as long as people keep abusing reports for unintentional stuff, the system will stay confused and unable to detect these unless the person admits intent in chat, or does it consistently over a rather long period of time.
Reflex01 (EUW)
: and its solution is?
There is no solution, the account is gone. Make your own.
Shukr4n (EUW)
: how? it s not equal. first because not everyone behave flawlessly AND play flawlessly to get so many honors second premade votes should not count third if i am casual, im not interested in deep game mechanics, moreover honor 5 should be an incentive to play good and be good and should not take a season to be reached.
1) You have to behave pretty much flawlessly to upgrade your honor. 2) Playing flawlessly doesn't matter. 3) Getting honored matters VERY little. 4) Premade honors matter even less than other honors. 5) Upgrading your honor is an incentive to play honorably, to behave well, to help your allies, to be a good part of the community. It has nothing to do with the amount of games you play nor with how good a player you are. 6) It won't take a season, if you play consistently it will take like 6-7 months.
Reflex01 (EUW)
: I bought the account from a child so.I do not have the information.I need to have
Account selling, trading or sharing are all against the Terms of Use. Any account that went through one of those will be permabanned without any chance of the ban being lifted. TL;DR: Don't buy accounts, you get ban!
Hellfireuzu (EUNE)
: How about the fact I don't like the skins? Would I purchase them in case I considered them ugly? Your argument is not really valid sir. Not the mention the content was simply removed from the game and that is a fact.
That's your subjective problem. Riot doesn't offer any guarantee that they won't change any content. Actually, on the contrary, they clearly state that they can change any content of the game as they see fit without any right for refund. This is just how it works, in every single online game that offers microtransactions, once unlocked, you have no right for a refund of any kind. Riot actually went out of their way to offer at least some refund options with refund tokens, most games don't do that. Feel free to never purchase anything with RL money in LoL again, that's your choice, and your right. But there is no reason for you to get a refund.
Shukr4n (EUW)
: u dont get my point either: assume i play behaviour wise and gaming wise FLAWLESSLY. i end every game honored by 1-4 teammates. ok? now 2 scenarios: a- i play 20 games per day. b- i play 1 game per day. why a should take same time than b?
Because Riot wants it to be possible for casual (< 1 game per day) players to upgrade their honor, and at the same time they don't want hardcore players (5+ games per day) to progress too quickly.
Hellfireuzu (EUNE)
: Different companies, different policies :) This is not the first game I've chosen to invest my time and money into but it sure is the first one to decline me a refund of something I "purchased" and was removed from the game's content. Would I consider it as a rental, then the item I used to rent is no longer viable to me. Does this mean my rental ended already? Well maybe add some time queue so I can have an idea how long will it work in the future :)
You have lost nothing. You still have access to all those skins. The fact that you don't like the champion anymore is not reason enough for a refund.
: I can say from my own experience. 1. Personally. I never write anything toxic in chat. At least since this new season started. I can claim to be 100% positive. Infact, I barely write anything at all. (I muted all, and only write for game strategy, so I would never write something offensive towards another or defend myself incase someone flames me) 2. I play A LOT of games. At least 5 a day. I play ranked, and most of the time. I get at least one honor per game regardless win/lose. So let's say on average, I get one honor / game. (And I'm pretty sure I never get reported, unless someone will falsely accuse me for 'inting' when I'm having a bad game.) 3. I have a friend who does not play nearly as much as me. I don't know how well he behaves in the game. But let's say he is a friendly player as well who is never toxic. He play maybe, a couple of times a week. But when ever I get a honor level up, he will also get it. So I really don't understand exactly how this works. So is it like... doesn't matter the number of honors I get, due to the number of games I play. As long as I'm positive? But then by this logic, if I play like, One game a week and positive all the time. I would advance the same like someone who plays 10 games a week and positive all the time? It would be like of...idk. Meh.
Pretty much only Riot knows how it works. But from the evidence I have seen it looks like there are defined periods (of about a month) during which if you play at least X matchmade games (no idea what X is), and you are honorable in them (most of them?), you will advance. That's why almost everyone seems to be advancing at about the same time, and it doesn't really matter how many games you played, as long as you played.
Pyrosen (EUW)
: Yeah but it's very difficult to get demoted Win 1 match and your demotion is negated You'd need to lose like 6/10 games in a row to get demoted from gold to silver lol
Indeed, your MMR has to be almost a whole division lower than where you currently are (so Silver 5 to get demoted from Gold) to even be eligible for demotion.
Maqya (EUNE)
: Honour checkpoints
The math behind the honor system is apparently fairly complex. I have reached tier 3 within a month of pretty active playing, since then I have been playing quite a bit less, and if, then only coops and ARAM, and yet hit 3.1 this weekend. Only the makers of the system could explain it, and they won't to prevent abuse.
: I SWEAR TO GOD the amount of times my team members went off to get a baron or drake instead of pushing down mid straight to the nexus with that 30+ secs window. 5 people sheds a turret in seconds. What did end up happening? The enemy team respawns and picks off my team one by one with a skirmish before the Baron buffs could do any significant harm and OF COURSE they DO have the mental capacity to rush mid and press towards the Nexus.... {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
So you were winning, made a mistake, and lost? So what makes you think the enemy won't do the same when they are winning? How can then the game be decided within 10 minutes, when the game can be thrown with one fight? Keep in mind that the enemy are the exact same braindead randos as your team. Especially in lower levels of play, nothing is decided till the nexus falls, people are terrible at closing games.
SureThingDk (EUNE)
: tbh, they got a solution for flamers its called a mute button i dont see why flamers are a problem at all. You can win with a flamer its np just mute and play but a dogshitkid int feeder, there is no stopping them 10+ games a day for 7 days straight = 14 days.
If there was an easy way to punish inters / trolls quickly, they would be. There is not. And flamers cause losses just as much as inters and trolls. Sure you can mute them, but by the time, the damage could be already done, and muting prevents communication. 1) A player who is unable to communicate, because they are toxic, and everybody mutes them, has no place in a team game. 2) Also while you can mute them, you can't control your allies, some might be borderline toxic, and when someone flames them, they retaliate - boom you have two people arguing instead of playing. 3) Another problem is that some people might already be on the werge of tilting, maybe they made a mistake and their lane snowballed, now if someone flames them, it might just throw them over the line, and they tilt completely. Basically when the game is still winnable, but someone decides to start flaming, chances are big that they will confirm the loss by that, even if they don't fully tilt or retaliate, the willingness to tryhard and do everything for the win, when it means helping a toxic player win, is low. Many players will just focus on themselves, play the game out and take the loss.
SureThingDk (EUNE)
: can we get stricter rules for int feeders?
It's close to impossible to tell whether someone is feeding INTENTIONALLY, unless they do it consistently and for some time. That's why it takes long for them to get punished. Flaming is easy to find, that's why it doesn't take long to get punished. Both deserve the punishments.
: How do you win lane against Caitlyn + Brand
Cait is a lane bully, and so can be Brand. You are not supposed to win lane against them, unless you find all-in opportunities. Just don't give them kills. Cait has a horrible mid-game, unless she is fed. And Brand support NEEDS kills to get any sort of damage going.
: Lux has no big ass character change in her ultimate skin Sona neither. Hence why I question the consistency of it being about major character reimaginations. There's not much difference there imo.
Lux does have HUGE character changes as soon as you transform into a different element than light. And especially when you transform to Darkness she just does a 180.
BlkStar100 (EUNE)
: Spam bot test you see on any other website , you know ... That should solve it , but i dont think Riot considers botting a problem , else they would have solve it by now lol .
{{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} The botting problem is not solvable. You can limit it, you can make it very hard for the bot masters. But you can't EVER solve it. It's not possible.
: > [{quoted}](name=Magneset,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=o9M6f04O,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-25T11:52:37.987+0000) > > 99% of the times they are being sold on smurf sites or on forums. why is this even allowed?
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