: Now that botlane have been opened for other champions.
These is not possible without a compleat rework of most marksmen. If they get strong enough to go top or mid they will dominate the meta entirely and that would be to go to far even if i am a marksmenplayer myself. Right now botlane is invaded but i think we will though the invader our of there if Riot doesnt change the rules. But the new item require a new playstyle.
Athacy (EUNE)
: Crit ADC.
Ok {{item:3095}} might not be optimal for {{champion:51}}. She need critical strike chance to scale but she also scale form AD. There is better champs for these meta even if a skilled {{champion:51}} player is still one of the things i fear most on botlane.
: this new adc "meta"
The traditional marksmen where just beyond worthless for a few days until the hotfix. I dont know exactly whats happened because the hotfix didnt really give us mutch at all. But i know will get shit for these but i feel like the marksmen is buffed. They might never have been more OP for a very long time. But they need another gameplay. Sure we critical strike is nerfed but hello we got more ad or attackspeed then we used to have and higher critical strike chance. Our DPS has improved given that we build right. So what is the right build? {{item:3095}} rush is the thing for most adc:s 70 attackdamage and 30% attackspeed is just awesome. These item is beyond OP. {{item:3006}} for the movementspeed and attackspeed but the attackspeed also works as cooldown reduction on {{item:3095}} and 35% is just what we need. Then you build {{item:3072}} followed by 2{{item:1038}}. now you will have 230 bonus ad and 65% as. Even if we have lost a little dps (im actully not sure about that) Riot have given us burst damage instead. They can jumo on me early as they used to because my frist attack will usually critical strike. Whit Hail of blades the next 2 attacks will come very fast and i have a legit chance to win a close combat. That has never been the case as far is know. Now you can build critical strike items and or Last wishper items and sell stormrazer if the games goes that far. As soon as everybody can se these then {{champion:110}}, {{champion:222}} and {{champion:119}} and other marksmen that these build works on. The {{item:3124}} meta is over but the marksmen bot meta isnt.
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dristz (EUNE)
: Compensate Caitlyn for IE changes
Stormrazor will make her dangerous as ****. It will crit for 160-200% when you dont aa for 2,5 sec. In many cases Catlyn will be able to use these to comb it whit her headshots. So i dont think she is being indrect nerfed. But off course if it doesnt work and her earlygame becomes rather bad then something had to be done.
: You dont know what you are talking about. Adc is the most broken class. You should not talk when you are lvl 15
> [{quoted}](name=FakersTiltedWife,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=3b4nU3s2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-23T21:25:59.293+0000) > > You dont know what you are talking about. Adc is the most broken class. You should not talk when you are lvl 15 Please, boards are here for all players including new ones, maybe specially for new ones. He is probably right about adc:s being useless. But that is hes experince because he plays in level 15. So explain to him that adc:s will be more usefull when the support and tank players has learn how to protect them and the adc:s has learned to lasthit and positioning themselfs right.
BloB3rt (EUW)
: Bronze Hell
All have a reason for being bronze. Some have no mapawerness, others cant last hit, some doesnt understand the macro of the game and some tilt their teams whit odd and unusuall strategys. But everybody have a black spot in their playstyle or they would climb to silver. Its also important to know the diffrence between a problem and bad circumstances. A problem can be solved by you but bad circumstances is just a there and you cant do anything about them. Your playstyle/skills can be a problem that can be solved but your teamats is bad or good circumstance that you cant do anyting about. A few tips how to get out of bronze faster: 1. Every game matters! If we assume that every win give 20LP and every lose give -20LP then it takes 100 games to get 20LP if your winrate is 50,5% and climbing from bronze 5 0LP to silver will take 3600 games. A lot more then most players are able to play over a season. If you have a winrate of 52% you need to 25 games to earn 20LP and climbing will take 900 games that is 2,5 games per day under if we assume that ranked is closed 5 days a year. iF your winrate is 54% you can do it in 450 games. 2. Dont flame if it cost you 1 out of 100 games is enough to keep you in bronze for another season. 3. Deside you first, secondary and maybe third main for every lane and dont play other champions. If you play more champions you will lose games and every extra lose cost you between 12-100 games more depending on how mutch abowe you teammates you are. 4. Accept that low bronze doesnt work as other divisions. Grouping is mutch more important som if your team wants sto steal blue buff instead of takeing a tower then help them. In bronze 1-2 there these change and you can make calls and try to get your team to do right things. 5. Play normals when you cant give 100%. 6. learn to play support you will be autofilled and being unable to fill that role will force you to play so many more games before you reach silver 5.
: > [{quoted}](name=Purple Flame,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fkjAYdAE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-14T08:36:31.896+0000) > > ehh? {{champion:81}} {{champion:202}} - B tier? It's his personal tier list. It's entirely his opinion, some people may not agree. He's a diamond ADC main, A champion's strength in Diamond is different to Silver for example. I'd say Jhin was only A Tier because he was abusing {{item:3124}}. Now it's fixed I'd say B tier is appropriate. > [{quoted}](name=Brokenhz,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fkjAYdAE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-13T21:26:11.871+0000) > > i wanna see 8.10 tier last honestly.Cuz im sure a lot of adc will be useless after the nerf . 8.11 It's not going live in 8.10. I'm gonna be playing Vayne like this in 8.11 - {{item:3153}} {{item:3046}} {{item:3124}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3047}} {{item:3026}}
I honestly doesnt understand these build (maybe because i dont understand the game enough). {{item:3153}} early damage good first item for vayne, good choice. {{item:3046}} is the passive really that good? i mean a {{item:3085}} is a very good comb whit {{item:3153}}. {{item:3124}} i see the point, silver bolts will hurt like hell. {{item:3031}} no argue that damage is still very good. {{item:3047}} some armor, sure could come to good use, there iis already a lot of attackspeed in the build. {{item:3026}} these is the one item that really dont follow, sure the passiv is good but it doesnt bring mutch to the gameplay. Why not a {{item:3022}}? The Hp will make mutch tankier then the armor from {{item:3026}} the ad diffrence isnt huge and you get a 20% slow. The slow combined whit vaynes passive (can be reiforced whit {{item:3044}}but usually not worth it) makes it rather impossilbe to escape whitout {{summoner:4}}.
Arnoter (EUW)
: Can I check somewhere how many LP I gained from previous Games ?
It doesnt work like that anymore. LP is gone and you can level up beyond level 30. When you level up you get a some "shards" and/or blue essence. Blue essence works a lot like LP did and you can sell your shards to get blue essence.
: "When reaching a certain amount of stat from items and base stats" The 12 AD from Runes don't count, so you were only at 88 für the passive
> [{quoted}](name=Dividedby0error,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=12jFym5W,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-09T12:31:46.118+0000) > > "When reaching a certain amount of stat from items and base stats" > > The 12 AD from Runes don't count, so you were only at 88 für the passive Is these 12 ad counted as base ad makeing spellblade and {{item:3053}} do more damage?
: Jinx is kinda too strong?
Jinx is kind of superfun to support whit Sion, when she fires rockets you just kick the minion she is shoting on the opponents and the damage is just wow + thet get tilted by not understanding how they died.
FeeD3R13 (EUNE)
: ADD OPTION TO REPORT TROLLERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Choiceing Gragas as ADC cant be punishable. If it was a rapportable offense then it should be impossible to pick Gragas if you are assigned "bot".
: also, they should make so that 3 against 2 is enough to surrender, i'm sick of those 2 guys that purposely refuse to surrender {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
> [{quoted}](name=MirirPaladin,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=iMBiqwYj,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-02T11:17:09.624+0000) > > also, they should make so that 3 against 2 is enough to surrender, i'm sick of those 2 guys that purposely refuse to surrender {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} specially if the 2 guys are premades.
elin990 (EUW)
: How does one climb out of Bronze?
1. Accept that there is diffrent rules and meta in low bronze then there is in other divisions. 2. Accept that its your own foult that you cant climb out of there. 3. Find you major flaws in the game, for example i played whit static camerawiev and had a hard time not getting out of B5. I didnt improve mutch until i switched to dynamic camerawiev since it forced me to develop mapawareness. I was also unable to lasthit properly so i switched mainrole from adc to support. 4. Never ever flame in low bronze, other players will tilt very fast and make you lose the game. 5. Dont play more champions then is absolutly nessessary. If you main is Katarina mid then learn how to play a Katarina counter because the most common reason for picking your secondary will be that your main is taken by the opponents. 6. Group with the larges group of players, if there isnt any follow the most fed player. 7. Dont get mad about you team is doing stupid shit. Help them do it because grouping is more important then exexcuting correct strategys. So if your team decides to take enemy blue buff instead of a tower, then follow them so that they doesnt end up in a 4 vs 5 witout you. 8. In bronze 2 the game starts to change and you had to start to learn how to play LoL instead of bronzeLoL. Good luck you are going to need it!
: Frozen Mallet
But the most hilarous is when a feed vayne builds it....
Bjuny (EUW)
: Honor Capsules are garbage
So what exiting things could you do with your IP? Be happay that you already own all "free stuff" and enjoy the game. These new system is good for new players and makes very little diffrence for us that have played on our accounts for a long time.
: Can you sort players into regions of Runeterra?
{{champion:14}} NOXOS!! Make it based on what champions we play whit in that case and if you play more with some other regions champions for some time then you switch to that region.
: i just had this and now I'm low probity queue :/
I got low priority to because off that, 2 persons whit the same issue isnt proof of a bug so i guess we had to set the lol on repair and wait out our punishment.
Rioter Comments
: Not if you abuse Manaflow Band and Scorch. At least not Sion and Ornn. Well I did play the former a lot and his Q on lvl 1/2 hits like a truck, if you can time it perfectly on CSing enemy. As you level E it also starts hitting like a truck. Unlike Malph's Ult Sion's Ult works well as a travel tool, engage, escape, emergency stunlock under tower and most importantly can scare enemy away in all directions.
I had to try that manaflow, maybe i try arcane comet instad of grasp of undieing to.
: Riot really needs to put an end to stupid damage coming from all champs
: Can i kindly ask you what's the point of having all champs if it's simply impossible to be equally skilled with all of them?
its good to allways be able to switch champion in the lobby. Maybe not in bronze and silver but i imagine that it will be more and more important the higher you climb.
Wex0r (EUW)
: i agree there is no reason you shouldnt be able to do this anymore.
The champions would becomme to cheep. You can get a mystery champion for only 4000 BE. it take about 6 games to climb a level if the games is played on 2 Days. when you climb you get like 400-1000 BE and that give a avarage of about 116 per game. That is a bit less then what we used to get whit IP but we dont need to buy runes anymore and there is ways to get the champions cheeper. The only thing that is more expensive now is if you want a specific champion. But these system is very good for new players that will be able to get champions very cheep in the start. I dont know if i love these system but its not that bad atleast.
True Sight (EUNE)
: What do you think about the snowball meta?
It feels like old times are back, its fun to get fed and carry but its not so fun to lose whitout a chance to turn things around.
: Do tanks have too much damage?
Considering how bad tanks are early they deserve to kind of OP in lategame if it comes to that. But i can se the problem and agrees tanks do to mutch damage but if their damage would be nerfed then they need to be tankier or have more cc.
Rismosch (EUW)
: lol at the moment tanks die faster than ever before xd
yes but the damage they deal is absurd. If i dont get deleated early i do about 60-100% of a carrys damage.
: riot nerfs tanks or im qutting
Dont be so hasty about quiting, Everything is new and less blacned then it used to be. They will fix alot Before season 8 starts.
DaahLeon (EUNE)
: To clarify things for you: after the first matchmade game that you played during the preseason patch you actually got the BE that was converted from your old runes and rune pages. The conversion worked like this: Tier 3 marks/seals/glyphs would give 100BE each Tier 3 Quint would give 300BE each Purchased rune page would transfare with you to the new system and give you 1500BE each. You mustve had a lot of runes & pages, or you bought runes & pages this season, as buying them this season would give you a FULL refund (;
Ohh but i couldnt imagine that it would be that mutch. But sure i have spent quit a lot on runes and have like 12 runepages all bouth with IP so it makes sence.
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Deprecious (EUNE)
: It is even harder now to acquire champions
is it possilbe to dp anything else whit the shards? If you for example can look up a shard and buy that champion very sheep then you might get as mutch as Before or more?
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Riot can't decide what people are allowed to call themselves on streaming sites. They can only have an impact on what happens in the game itself, which is their property.
If the man behinde the name Tyler 1 would create a account and start to stream Calling himself Tyler1 on the stream and follows the rules ingame. Exactly how will RIOT enforce hes ban if they dont look at the stream and sees that the account in question is used by somebody that calls himself Tyler 1?
Hansiman (EUNE)
: All past accounts he has used that were permabanned will have their names locked. Even if the indefinite ban is lifted, he won't be able to reclaim his old account names. --- > the nick Tyler should be blocked a ingame name. Isn't that just rather offensive to other people who happened to be named Tyler? It's a rather common name. Personally I'd find it offending if the name "Hans" was blocked, just because an offensive person using that name was punished.
most important is that nobody cant stream and claim to be tyler 1 whitout getting banned. But i guess you are right about the name Tyler.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > so if tyler1 was forever banned He's not, he's "indefinitely" banned. That means he's banned until further notice. Once he's shown that he's actually reformed, and not just claiming to be reformed, then he'll be allowed to create new accounts.
I Think RIOT should keep the ban of the name Tyler 1 instead of the person. Anybody who streams and call themself Tyler 1 should be banned and the nick Tyler should be blocked a ingame name. But the person should be allowed to create a new account just as everybody else and if he likes to stream under Another name (as long as he behave imself). Its the trademark off bad behavior that is the problem and not the person.
: Should you buy all runes now?
No you should not, even if the runes is rather cheep 10 ip or something these small amount of ip will not be refuned. But if you want to test something just to see how i would had worked earlier these is your chance. I have spent 100 ip on % Health runes so i could test how they work on Sion because i wanted to check how that would had worked. But if you dont have any special interest like me then its just a waste of ip that will transform into BE.
: Liandry's deserves a slight change (buff)
The problem whit liandrys tourment is that slows has been nerfed a lot. There is simply not that many 3 sec slow around anymore. If the item should be buffed then the damage should be dealt faster. Perhaps 1,5 per click over 4 sec (total 6%) and 1,5% per click if slowed (12% in total).
: How do you climb when playing tanks?
Duo with somebody that plays carry and know how benefit from your peel and cc.
xGunna1 (EUW)
: playing double supp with double redemption items is more worth than that useless jungler
I have thought these myself a few times. But i have allways pictured the supports building zz root portal and the carrys to build smite and farming the jungle leaving the supports solo from time to time. These would give carrys lots of gold and xp and the supports would get some farm and xp to. The problem would of course be counterfarming. The current meta would with a jungler would get a feeded jungler that would snowball. The strategic value of a player that cant be seen (mostly) should not be underestimated. Another thing that could be possible is to Place the adc and support in the jungle whit 3 sololanes. The ganks would be just wow but then you get the problem whit playing 1 vs 2 on the botlane. What chapion can do that without feeding?
: He wants to show it to enemy team.
ohhh my misstake, i Think only way is to type in chat manally then.
xGunna1 (EUW)
: is there a way to show enemy team your ping (ms)
Yes there is, it hink you hold down Ctrl and click on you ping number and it will appear in the chat. Could be shift also i cant remember. Can somebody fill in?
c8d8 (EUW)
: Are assasins to strong?
Apperently not since leathlity and magic penetration is getting buffed next patch. Seams like seaons 8 might be a assassin meta.
: silvers should get victoruis skin as well heres why explained
i am silver and i dont feel that "victorius" maybe its good as it is.
: I'm pretty sure you know enough about the IP to BE change for me to not have to explain it all but yeah 1 : You'll get BE by disenchanting champ shards you get from leveling up 2 : They'll change first win of the day to a daily mission that gives a **lot** of BE on your first win of the day Those changes should make it just as easy as it is now to buy your desired champion from the store, but if you're lucky you might get the champ you want faster, specially at lower levels
Will we still get a small amount of BE per game played?
Kåtarína (EUNE)
: This comment has helped me a lot with my thoughts on these champs.thank you very much :) Also a full magic pen page on kat is not unusual for us kata mains, we use it pretty often actually. Champs with no Shields and heals are better of with more magic pen that ap as is was punishing mid laners who had no mr in their runes. Currently kat takes dorans Shield and a pot for start 90% of the time so we were safe with no resistances.
I just had to say that your nickname is hillarous. Are you Swedish?
Flaming annonym players on internet is just not construtive. They dont care, all you do is getting yourself punished. Just try to bark at the computerscreen instead of hiting the enter buttom. It has the same longterm effeck: none what so ever.
ThePikol (EUNE)
: An idea how to fix Ardent Censer by replacing second passive with active
The second half of the season had a ap/utillity meta on supports. Its nothing strange about it and it will probably change in pre-season patch. The time time for Leona, Blitzcrank, braum and Nautilus will come back, sooner or later.
: I need help , give me tips/advice to reach GOLD V
Its just your mmr that is adapting to a higher level. You are practically allready there and probably only need to play more games.
Andyn0 (EUW)
: Why nasus seems so "broken" in solo queue
Seas like he have heimerdinger syndrom, only viable as long as there isnt anybody who know how to counter him. But if nobody know then he solocarrys the game. OBS! (i mean Heimerdinger Before hes rework, he doesnt have that problem anymore).
Ahwu (EUW)
: How does a low elo player know the key concepts and balancing of the game? Lethality is as balanced as it never has been before and is currently a legit stat. Tanks are not out of hand generally but certain champs seem to cross the line (Sejuani is here to name). Assassins do what they are supposed to do, even if it is not always fun for everyone: Being able to kill squishy targets very fast IF they have a lead (if you're dying in a teamfight as an ADC from a random Rengar it's because your team plays poorly not because Lethality is op).
Many low ELO players has very good understanding of the the game, they just hasnt the micromanagement skills to execute their starategys.
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