DeRoo (EUW)
: Yes you need to buy control wards vs Eve. As a mid lane you can easily push and pop a ward over the raptors wall. Then you can stay more on the warded side of the lane. Top you can push and walk into red/blue. Or just deep in river on the crab. Bot you shouldn't push hard vs eve and they shouldn't kill either of bot laners in a 3v2 pre level 6. Only if the players are bad. And if you at pushed in... She has to dive. It's common sense really :) Keep trying to insult me though it really hurts! Ouch! Makes you a better player too!
> [{quoted}](name=DeRoo,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=WTEsEOHl,comment-id=000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-13T14:55:55.055+0000) > > Yes you need to buy control wards vs Eve. > > As a mid lane you can easily push and pop a ward over the raptors wall. Top You can push and walk into red/blue. Or just deep in river on the crab. Bot you shouldn't push hard vs eve and they shouldn't kill either of bot laners in a 3v2 pre level 6. Only if the players are bad. > > It's common sense really :) You do realise that I have only 1 role/lane that I can play right? "Only if the players are bad". So basically 95% of this community wich is between bronze and dia.
DeRoo (EUW)
: Ouch. Really hurt us there. Now you are twisting my words. Good one. It's a sign of defeat in a debate :) Donald Trump does it haha. Best of luck! You'll need it.
I actually just quoted you... "because you didn't buy control wards or ward eves camps" Your words not mine. These types of ideas can only come from a 50 IQ.
DeRoo (EUW)
: Well you shouldnt get 1 shotted. Unless you're really far behind. Or you get her already. Work out the maths dude. She can't one shot you if she is not fed or you are underleveled. Yes you deep ward or put control wards. Exactly. What's better? Losing a control ward? Or losing your life and feeding her? Hmm? Glad I could help while everyone else just downvotes you and doesn't bother :)
> [{quoted}](name=DeRoo,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=WTEsEOHl,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-13T14:22:18.288+0000) > > Well you shouldnt get 1 shotted. Unless you're really far behind. Or you get her already. Work out the maths dude. She can't one shot you if she is not fed or you are underleveled. > > Yes you deep ward or put control wards. Exactly. What's better? Losing a control ward? Or losing your life and feeding her? Hmm? > > Glad I could help while everyone else just downvotes you and doesn't bother :) Oh, so cute how your blackened heart trys to hurt my feelings. Typical european/american kid with 50 IQ. Must have been a sad and lonely live for you, if you take your joy from other peoples anger. :) And yea, i get downvoted. I dont need approval from a bunch of idiots of your kind. I have self esteem, something you milennials dont know. I dont need likes and approval. But whatever, Im talking to a person who thinks controll wards stop eve, and who thinks dropping deep wards isnt a team efford, is really easy to do, and should be done by ADCs. I also have to do this for my whole team since they aint gonna do it. So to sum it all up : - Drop 3 controll wards on each lane (can only buy 1 but whatever, not like your brain cares) - Run around as ADC in the enemy jungle in order to drop deep wards (brilliant) - Fight her Brilliant.
DeRoo (EUW)
: Ok "einstein". Allow me to educate you as I have years more experience than you. Eve does not have a perma stealth. It is camouflage which can be revealed by fighting, control wards, scyers bloom, being within 700 units of an enemy, red trinkets and being attacked. She doesn't get camouflage until level 6. So again, she's not perma stealth. You seem to not know the difference between Invisibility which Vayne and Wukong have and Camouflage which Twitch and Eve have. Or not know eve either. Google it. And lastly, you lost because you didn't buy control wards or ward eves camps over a wall. If you did that, you'd know where she is. Or else u just fed your lane. Cry more.
> [{quoted}](name=DeRoo,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=WTEsEOHl,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2017-11-13T14:09:38.594+0000) > > Ok "einstein". Allow me to educate you as I have years more experience than you. > > Eve does not have a perma stealth. It is camouflage which can be revealed by fighting, control wards, scyers bloom, being within 700 units of an enemy, red trinkets and being attacked. She doesn't get camouflage until level 6. So again, she's not perma stealth. > > You seem to not know the difference between Invisibility which Vayne and Wukong have and Camouflage which Twitch and Eve have. Or not know eve either. Google it. > > And lastly, you lost because you didn't buy control wards or ward eves camps over a wall. If you did that, you'd know where she is. Or else u just fed your lane. > > Cry more. Oh wow, by fighting? so when she kills me, I can see her while im getting one shotted ? Oh, thats nice. Also, damn controll wards ? Ooooh, thats the trick. Too good that eve cant just kil the ward, and then gank you. Also, yea, im going to drop some deep wards next time while i play ADC. EXACTLY! Brilliant fcking idea. Thats probably going to work, ill just walk into her jungle, hope she doesnt catch me, then ill drop my 60 second wards, and ill just go back to lane. That sounds smart. Damn your experience really educated me. These brilliant ideas.
Glazebone (EUW)
: She is actually NOT that strong in low-mid elo. Sure, she can melt ADCs but against tanks and bruisers, she defo won't be able to 1 shot them, no matter how fed she is. Also, she is pretty squishy herself and has no other escapes other than her kinda teleport ulti (which she uses to deal damage anyway). If she gets caught by ANY form of CC, she's dead. Best thing to do when encountering a good {{champion:28}} jungler is to stick close to your team. If she jumps your ass, your team will cover and at worst case, you will die but so will {{champion:28}}. Of course, this is provided you actually have a team, and not a 0/1/0 Zed jungler after 20 min.
> [{quoted}](name=Glazebone,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=WTEsEOHl,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-13T14:03:40.064+0000) > > She is actually NOT that strong in low-mid elo. > > Sure, she can melt ADCs but against tanks and bruisers, she defo won't be able to 1 shot them, no matter how fed she is. Also, she is pretty squishy herself and has no other escapes other than her kinda teleport ulti (which she uses to deal damage anyway). If she gets caught by ANY form of CC, she's dead. > > Best thing to do when encountering a good {{champion:28}} jungler is to stick close to your team. If she jumps your ass, your team will cover and at worst case, you will die but so will {{champion:28}}. > > Of course, this is provided you actually have a team, and not a 0/1/0 Zed jungler after 20 min. Yea she is TOTALY weak in low elo right ? I mean damn, its SO hard to gank botlane as eve against silver players that are constantly aware of everything. That is incredibly hard to do, i know. Its the high elo korean games where Eve shines, thats why she is permapick/ban at tournaments. Yea. Also, yea you are right. Next time, ill just stick with muh team tho, especially before the 10 minute mark. Ill just go botlane level 4 in order to prevent my bot from feeding. Yea.
DeRoo (EUW)
: Well when the enemy has a 19/0/4 eve at 20 min, what do you expect. I'm pretty sure I could 1 shot someone as Soraka if I had that amount of gold at 20min.
> [{quoted}](name=DeRoo,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=WTEsEOHl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-13T13:53:29.472+0000) > > Well when the enemy has a 19/0/4 eve at 20 min, what do you expect. > > I'm pretty sure I could 1 shot someone as Soraka if I had that amount of gold at 20min. and another thing. at least soraka is visible. i can see her. i can ward. i cant do that against stealth champs.
DeRoo (EUW)
: Well when the enemy has a 19/0/4 eve at 20 min, what do you expect. I'm pretty sure I could 1 shot someone as Soraka if I had that amount of gold at 20min.
i knew this would be the first comment. and i knew you wouldnt realise how dumb it is. she is strong with 0/0/0. its not the gold einstein. its the permastealth.
ShadWooo (EUNE)
: right now in preseason she is very good
> [{quoted}](name=ShadWooo,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=G67PYioz,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-11-13T00:54:07.244+0000) > > right now in preseason she is very good when exactly wasnt she good in solo Q ? eve was always strong in solo Q. perma stealth that forces the whole enemy team to play under tower. and 1 shot out of stealth. that what eve always has been.
: Have you had a game this week that wasn't a complete stomp?
so the opposite is better ? 80 minute long games where nobody can snowball and where items dont matter and stats dont matter ? and where nothing matters and everybody is just a snowflake waiting to be rewarded ? is that better ?
: So why do we have to buy rune pages?
because riot isnt about logic. its about beeing as dumb as u can be while staying popular and earning 2 billion $ a yeaer so mark merril can continue buying mansions. like the one he bought for like 20 million.
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